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pipe line controversy.

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Virginia beach pumps water from Lake Gaston to there to use as drinking water. This is a cause of concern for many land owners around the lake, who claim the water level is falling every year because of this. In reality, the water level is controlled by the dam, and the pump station has nothing to do with the water level. 72.66.246.46 (talk) 18:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarksville, VA

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Tedickey reverted the re-addition of Clarksville to the list of closest towns by claiming "Clarksville is 42 miles away; there are several nearer (and more notable) towns.".

The Lake Gaston Chamber of Commerce acknowledges that Lake Gaston begins at John H. Kerr Dam and ends at Gaston Dam. The closest point from Clarksville to Lake Gaston is John H. Kerr Dam. According to the official John H. Kerr Reservoir map, Clarksville is located at Buoy #20 and therefore 20 miles from the dam by water. By road according to the official address of John H. Kerr Dam and Google maps, the distance from Clarksville is 22.5 miles. The editor is incorrect in the closest distance between Clarksville and Lake Gaston.

Sure, there are other similarly sized and smaller towns in the area such as Boydton VA (9.1 miles from Lake Gaston), and Henderson NC (26 miles). However, in the region, no other town besides what is already listed in the sentence has as much notability as Clarksville, VA.

--Coviepresb1647 (talk) 21:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The list in the given order - note that it's not strictly by distance (using google maps for distances):
Littleton, North Carolina, pop 692, distance 14.4
Brodnax, Virginia, pop 317, distance 17.2
Lawrenceville, Virginia, pop 1275, distance 21.8
Gaston, North Carolina, pop 973, distance 23.4
Warrenton, North Carolina, pop 811, distance 23.7 (county seat)
Roanoke Rapids, North Carolina, pop 16,957, distance 25.1
South Hill, Virginia, pop 4,403, distance 23.6
Norlina, North Carolina, pop 1107, distance 27.1
Garysburg, North Carolina, pop 1254, distance 30.2
Pleasant Hill, Northampton County, North Carolina, pop ?, distance 30.3
Weldon, North Carolina, pop 1374, distance 31.4
Emporia, Virginia, pop 5587, distance 34.4
Chase City, Virginia, pop 2457, distance 42.7
Clarksville, Virginia, (pop 1329), distance 42.8

Tedickey (talk) 23:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I too used Google maps in addition to the John H. Kerr Reservoir map. Details of it are in my original comment.--Coviepresb1647 (talk) 00:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I proved my point (probably not to you, but to the normal reader, who's aware that distances are commonly measured from the center). Tedickey (talk) 00:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, you have not proven your point since the normal reader is not necessarily aware of how the distance is measure from a point to a lake. Government agencies and commercial entities have different ways of measuring distances especially bodies of water. The Corps of Engineers, who routinely surveys lakes and distances, does not necessarily measure from the center of the lake to a town. The Chambers of Commerce do not do that. Hence, what you perceive as normal on how distances are measured from a lake is not common or necessarily standard.--Coviepresb1647 (talk) 00:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
hmm - that's two statements: Corps of Engineers "does not necessarily" (sounds as if there's no known reliable source, and since Corp of Engineers isn't in the business of putting up highway signs, there may be none). Chamber of Commerce sounds more definite, but since they're in the business of promoting their own interests, they won't provide a reliable source (for more about that, start with WP:COI) Tedickey (talk) 15:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will respond later as I am going through the loss of my friend who died late this morning (23/Aug/08).--Coviepresb1647 (talk) 06:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Those that are in the business of making road signs are the sheet metal contractors (at least in Virginia) and of installing road signs are the respective State DOT's. The Corps of Engineers do put up signs on their own land and do survey their land regularly. I agree with you on CoC's in promoting their self-interest. Since there seems no definitive, NPOV publication on defining distances that neither you nor I have presented here, my question is what published, official standard do we use to verify those distances? You originally said, using the logical fallacy of Argumentum ad Populum, lakes are measured to the middle of the lake. I ask, what specific NPOV sources have that method as an official standard of measuring distances from a point to a lake? --Coviepresb1647 (talk) 02:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarksville is rarely a location visited by Lake Gaston residents and visitors. From the western end of the lake (closest to Clarksville)(both on the south side and north side of the lake), folks are much more likely to go south to Henderson and north to South Hill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.106.187.7 (talk) 17:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The question is closest towns, not the frequency or place of visitors' visits. --Coviepresb1647 (talk) 04:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your argument, if applied to South Hill, Virginia puts that closer than Clarksville. Emporia is almost as close (in that measure) as Clarksville, and is much more notable. Tedickey (talk) 10:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I already addressed this your point above. The article page is accurate as it currently reads. Coviepresb1647 (talk) 19:53, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tedickey's reversion

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Tedickey's reversion also re-added a redundant link that I deleted. Redundant links (having the same link twice) are not necessary. --Coviepresb1647 (talk) 23:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced/uncited tag

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The tag put in November 2006 is outdated because the article does have references and external but could use perhaps more NPOV material. Hence, I changed the tag to a more accurate and update one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coviepresb1647 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced means just that - there are no reliable sources cited in this topic (the collection of external links isn't that). Tedickey (talk) 01:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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