Talk:Lauren Lakis

removed info on Lauren Lakis albums etc

Hey, User:Teblick, you just removed info on albums of Lauren Lakis which I added towards clarifying that Lakis is notable, per what I understood in the last AFD. That her having 2 albums satisfies some standard.

• One of your edit summaries indicates that "discogs" is not regarded as reliable which I had just added (that "Cavity Search also released an EP, "Sad Girl Breakfast", in 2019.[sourced to [1] ]", and
• the other just deletes stuff that was previously tagged as unsourced ("Cavity Search Records released her first full album in 2018." and "She played the role of Greta in horror film Rows (2014).")

However, I "believe" that Lakis really did 2 albums and did that EP and did play the role of Greta in a 2014 or 2015 film, per the IMDB for film Rows. My guess without checking is that line was sourced to IMDB previously but someone removed the reference. What do you want done to add back that info, specifically, like in tutoring mode to me, if you don't mind helping? (Note, I am not a music person, am not knowledgeable about what sourcing is generally accepted here. However I do tend to believe potentially user-supplied stuff on the internet like IMDB and Wikipedia when it seems non-controversial. I believe that IMDB is reliable about roles played, though I do understand some/many Wikipedia editors don't like IMDB. I am not familiar with issues about discogs, I am just effectively a newbie in this area.) --Doncram (talk) 13:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your post, Doncram. I will try to address your concerns in the comments below.

• The unsourced content that I removed had been without a citation since November 2020. That's when the "Citation needed" template was dated; it might have been unsourced even longer. The lack of a citation for more than a year makes me think that either the content was incorrect or no one cared enough to find a valid citation. If you find a reliable published source, you are welcome to restore the contend with an appropriate citation.
• As I noted in the edit summary when I removed the content cited to discogs, that source is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#Generally unreliable sources. Specifically, that page says, "Info is user-submitted/uploaded and fails WP:USERG." Here, too, if you can find a reliable published source, you are welcome to restore the contend with an appropriate citation.

You wrote, "However I do tend to believe potentially user-supplied stuff on the internet like IMDB and Wikipedia when it seems non-controversial. I believe that IMDB is reliable about roles played, though I do understand some/many Wikipedia editors don't like IMDB." You are welcome to your belief, of course, at a personal level. When it comes to editing articles on Wikipedia, however, all of us who edit should follow Wikipedia's established policies and guidelines. WP:IMDB offers useful comments about why IMDb should not be used as a source in Wikipedia articles. WP:USERGENERATED provides additional comments about reasons to avoid user-generated sources and gives a list of other sites that fall into this category, in addition to IMDb.

You asked, "What do you want done to add back that info, specifically, like in tutoring mode to me, if you don't mind helping?" The main thing is to provide reliable published sources for content. Those sources can be online or in print. Consider newspapers, magazines, encyclopedias, etc. You might look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources for sites that are classified as "Generally reliable in its areas of expertise" to see if any of them provide the information that you need.

I am not a music person, either, but I do recognize some unreliable sources. Perhaps another editor will read your post and provide suggestions to help you more than I can. You might also visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians to seek help from editors who have expertise in working with articles of this type. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2022 (UTC)