Talk:Lavrentiy Beria

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  • I think it is precisely right. Someone else apparently seemed to think that the info about his personal murders and rapes belonged in the first paragraph but, compared to the millions of other deaths he was responsible for, I for one think it is of minor importance.

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"Our Himmler"[edit]

I don't think this phrase should be used in the introduction at all and maybe not even the article. Firstly, it seems very tabloidy and IF Stalin said it, this would be meant in a joking way and does not deserve to be elevated beyond that. Secondly, there are different sources which promote this supposed phrase (which may be an urban legend), some books claim Stalin said it to Rippentrop, some say to Roosevelt. We need to ascertain whether Stalin ever actually said this from contemporary reports. It is obvious why it is in the article, as a propaganda means to say "the Bolsheviks and the Nazis were just the same. Stalin/Hitler, Beria/Himmler, etc, etc." Claíomh Solais (talk) 01:27, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Questionable sexual deviance claims[edit]

As it stands, the article has far too much information dedicated to the pet theories of Simon Sebag-Montefiore (who is threefold bias in this subject area as an anti-communist, part of the British establishment and a scion of a quite well known banking dynasty!). This information is either not taken seriously on Wikipedia in other languages, or, in the case of the French Wikipedia is limited to a paragraph and clearly attributed to Sebag-Montefiore. It is amazing how, on Wikipedia we automatically treat any trial from the Stalin-era as a "show trial" and yet anything that came out of Clown Prince Khrushchev's revisionist mouth, or those of his cronies during a power struggle, so long as it is hostile to "Stalinists" is presumed to be Gospel, veritable, pristine manna from the heavens. Claíomh Solais (talk) 01:42, 25 December 2017 (UTC)