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Is Wikipedia liberal biased??[edit]

Why is there a psychology section for conservatives using only negative findings on them, but not one for liberals?? There have been studies showing liberals have a mental disorder and is more apt to blindly follow their leaders:

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/097795630X

http://www.libertymind.com/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101209074403.htm

I am not saying it should be written that liberals are mentally ill, just these studies should be cited in the article like on the conservative one. This article makes liberals sound like they are sane and more intelligent than conservatives, and that is disputed. Also, the findings that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives have been disputed too.Bjoh249 (talk) 00:55, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I just had a look at those three sources. The first is a book review that seems to equate modern liberalism with the radical left, which is obviously nonsense. The second is another review of the SAME book, claiming it "is the first systematic examination of human nature and human freedom". I seriously doubt it. The third describes some research which may be quite valid, then draws conclusions which suggest that conservatives are, well, more conservative. I think you need better sources. HiLo48 (talk) 01:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
The liberal mind is published by "Free World Books" which is a label of "Red Room", a self-publishing company.[2] See WP:SELFPUB which explains the limited use that can be made of self-published works. TFD (talk) 03:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

And how are the sources on the conservative article any better?? They try to equate modern conservative with mental illness and fascism, which is also nonsense. The book I cited was a real book written by a psychologist, and I know it is for sale on Amazon.com which is respected bookseller. The third one was a study that was done by scientists. I am not saying to state that liberalism is mental illness, I am simply saying to give equal time to both instead of mainly printing the negative stuff on conservatives and leaving the negatives of liberals out.Bjoh249 (talk) 10:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Almost every book is for sale on amazon.com, so that is not a qualification. The difference is between academic research and popular non-fiction. Rick Norwood (talk) 12:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Indeed. That has to be the most hilarious "justification" for claiming that someone's vanity press book deserves RS status...in the history of Wikipedia. LOL. Bryonmorrigan (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
The studies were unable to find any correlation between liberalism and psychology, otherwise we would include it. TFD (talk) 12:34, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
If the article(s) on conservatives contain rubbish, then fix them. Don't add garbage to this one. HiLo48 (talk) 04:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Bjoh249, read the 2012 history book Rule & Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, From Eisenhower to the Tea Party (Studies in Post War Political Development) published by the Oxford Press to find out how crazy Conservatives are.
http://www.amazon.com/Rule-Ruin-Moderation-Destruction-Development/dp/0199768404
The radicalization of Conservatives has gotten so bad that in 1966 it lead moderate Republican Senator Thomas Kuchel to proclaim, :::::"[Conservatives are] a fanatical neo-facsist political cult of right-wingers in the GOP, driven by a strange mixture of corrosive hatred and sickening fear that is recklessly determined to control our party or destroy it!"
I think this section in the Talk page should be deleted as flame-bait. --50.128.155.168 (talk) 18:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

"Part of a series on..."[edit]

on the "Conservatism in the United States" page, it is a portal to topics directly related to conservatism in the United States, but on this page, the portal only relates to liberalism in general. shouldn't there be a more relevant portal? --99.101.160.159 (talk) 16:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

map[edit]

I have removed a map that seems to show that America is almost entirely Republican. But the map is colored by area (counties) rather than population, and is therefore misleading. Votes are counted by population, not by area. A map designed to inform rather than mislead would show votes by population. Rick Norwood (talk) 14:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

One man, one vote.Slmslr27 (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage[edit]

Same-sex marriage is mentioned as a liberal cause in the lead, but there is no mention of it in the section, "American liberalism, 1970 to the present day" (which is woefully lacking substance). I believe there should be at least some mention of Obergefell v. Hodges. Thoughts?Kerdooskis (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

agreeRick Norwood (talk) 21:19, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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