Talk:List of LGBT-related suicides

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Inclusion criteria?[edit]

What are, or should be, the criteria for inclusion on this list? A simple intersection of "LGBT person" and "committed suicide" would probably be the easiest and least contentious to maintain, but it also may be less than helpful to a reader to mix in individuals where the intersection was just coincidental (eg. James Whale) with those where it was relevant (eg. Turing and the teens/preteens who killed themselves because of bullying). –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 01:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The current list is a simple (?) intersection. It could, certainly, be more specific to suicide due to bullying, but even Whale's suicide was due (in part) to his sexuality. To me, it's encyclopedic to see that not only is this not a recent phenomenon (1932), it's also not just young people who are driven to suicide. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I definitely agree with that point of view, and it's well supported by the inclusion of people like Turing - but could you show me what indicates that Whale's suicide was related to his sexual orientation? Admittedly I'm just going off his Wikipedia article, but it seems that it was motivated by his failing health. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 16:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Hm - I didn't read that article well enough. Good point - Whale's suicide doesn't seem to be related to his sexuality. My bad. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

Should this be renamed "List of LGBT-related deaths", to give a more varied list? I'm thinking of a title which would allow for inclusion of Damilola Taylor and Matthew Sheppard type of deaths. Pass a Method talk 11:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Could be, sounds better than the current title and would allow a more varied list like you said.

:Support Thanks Jenova20 11:54, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Oppose - For two reasons: How is a death related to one's sexuality? And isn't that like saying "a list of people who have died"? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Change to oppose - what Roscelese said Jenova20 12:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose - as per Satyr's comment above. LadyofShalott 00:54, 12 March 2012 (UTC)