Talk:List of people known for extensive body modification

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the List of people known for extensive body modification article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles

Body Modification (defunct)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Body Modification, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.Body ModificationWikipedia:WikiProject Body ModificationTemplate:WikiProject Body ModificationBody Modification articles

Lists

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on List of people known for extensive body modification. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:10, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson?

Can we get Michael (and possibly Janet) Jackson on here? I'll leave the task to someone who knows more about them, but Michael's procedures were pretty significant.Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Michael Jackson’s medical procedures have been that of folklore. No one knows exactly the medical procedures performed on Jackson, but there’s much evidence that much of it was grossly exaggerated. Jackson’s autopsy report revealed a lot of normalcy, and nothing notable or outstanding in areas of his face and body that was suspected of much modifications. Also, Jackson’s admitted nose job and chin does not qualify as “extensive” modifications. Much of Jackson’s appearance changes were due to other medical issue. Jackson had to autoimmune disorders, both capable of changing one’s appearance; vitiligo and lupus. Vitiligo was responsible for lightening his skin and making him allergic to the son. Lupus would attack Jackson’s soft tissue in his body, like organs, nose, and others, sometime requiring corrective(not cosmetic) surgery. It wouldn’t be fair to include Michael Jackson on this list and there’s simply far too much unverifiable speculation on his procedures or lack thereof. As far as Janet Jackson is concerned, she’s not known to having had any extensive modifications at all. However, it’s speculated that she may have had a small nose job. But if you start adding people to this list with minor procedures, you’re going to end up with all of the entertainment industry, and that’s not what this list is about.TruthGuardians (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

True. Many, many entertainers, artists and models had corrective or cosmetic surgery, ranging from one minor intervention to repeated procedures. Israell (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is not enough credible evidence about Jackson's medical history to know what exactly was done and why. Nobody knows how much was actual body modification and how much the effect of health problems like lupus. Besides, he is far from being among those with most body modifications. It's quite possible Cher had more plastic surgeries than Jackson, except she is not called out for it because she has consistently looked fairly good. castorbailey (talk) 15:44, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanations, everyone. I understand! I certainly don't want to belittle anyone for having a disease. I was under the impression at least his nose job was pretty extensive, with multiple revisions, but I suppose that alone doesn't make this list. You're absolutely right about Cher, too! If there are sources, I wouldn't mind seeing her on here. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:55, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]