Talk:Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D (Wood)

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A fact from Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D (Wood) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 September 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Charles Wood's Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D has been regarded as an "epitome of Church of England worship"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2018/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D (Wood).

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Wording of DYK blurb[edit]

@Gerda Arendt: ... that Charles Wood's Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D has been regarded as an "epitome of Church of England worship"?

I saw your discussion with another user. I think the above is OK. If you want the plural form, you need to say something like "the movements of Charles Wood's ... are an epitome...". But the article uses the singular here (Evening Service). Jmar67 (talk) 20:18, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really movements, but two individual works, but I understood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to comment in the nomination. The article refers to the canticles as movements. But in this context it can't be regarded as 2 separate works, rather one work with two parts. Jmar67 (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have thought of the nomination already closed. Next time: you can do 2 things: go to my user page, find the article, in the same row there will be "nom", - or look at "What links here" (left), and find what looks like the nom. - Repeating: I understood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do think I understand your concern because I also sing in a choir and know what you are saying. The article could emphasize the two-piece nature with a lead such as: "Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D is a two-piece work with a common choral setting by the Irish composer Charles Wood. The pieces are the Magnificat and Nunc dimittis for the Anglican service of Evening Prayer and are sung at different times in the service. Scored for four-part choir and organ, it was written in 1898. It is also known as Evening Service in D major." Further adjustments could be made to the article. Does this help? It would be impractical to present the pieces as separate works, however. Jmar67 (talk) 22:36, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think we might create an article Magnificat and Nunc Dimittis, to not say general things that will bore some readers when repeated in every single such work. They are connected, no doubt about that. The singilar-plural question is a bit like orchestra. It was founded, but they play. "It plays" sounds strange, to me at least ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For now, I made it a redirect. Feel free to expand there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: I adjusted the link in Evening Prayer to point to the Wood page directly (after the move to add "(Wood)" to the title). This page originally had the name but it was dropped somewhere along the way. Jmar67 (talk) 07:19, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation[edit]

While this setting may "seem to many the epitome" of M&N, to myself (perhaps a bit of a musical anglophobe) it suggests little to distinguish it from Bairstow's, Dyson's or Stanford's, to mention only a very few of the settings in D]. Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines a last name should suffice: Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D (Wood). Sparafucil (talk) 01:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just thank you. It was created with the composer as disamb. Let's forget in between. Too bad that the Recent additions archive is wrong, and so are the stats for DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]