Talk:Mandela: The Authorised Biography

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Former good article nominee Mandela: The Authorised Biography was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
Date Process Result
December 17, 2006 Peer review Reviewed
August 20, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Comments[edit]

de klerk in his own words about the relation with mandela and the tensions about the "third force question" (the support of the IFP by state security agencies): "Our fights that you refer to, our tensions, which were quite severe at times during my presidency especially, centered around, both from his side and my side, some people within our institutions and systems acting against our orders and policies, continuing undercover activities which were actually totally in conflict with the policies which we were trying to advance and the agreements which we were trying to reach" (interview with stengel, see the de klerk article). it must also be mentioned that malan and vlok were both dismissed as ministers by de klerk; and that mandela and de klerk today -as far as i can judge- have a good relation. about gregory: he was invited by mandela to his presidental inauguration in 1994 (as his ex-prison-guard!) and -if i remember correctly- to his 80th birthday. but its true that gregorys book-publication was questionable. --Severino 16:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll incorporate them into the article when I have time. I don't own this article of course, so there is no need to wait for me if you want something to change now BillMasen 21:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Necklacing[edit]

Necklacing was not "practised" by Winnie Mandela - which implies that she personally necklaced several people. The link between Winnie and necklacing is that she made a speech in which she seemed to support the practice. Nor was she "punished" for it - she was widely criticised, but her criminal convictions were for other things not related to necklacing. Bill, the wording is misleading, POV, and needs to be changed. Zaian 11:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Good article nomination failed[edit]

A Good Article needs to be "broad in its coverage" and this article certainly isn't broad enough to qualify. There would need to be more secondary sources, more about the author, critical reviews, sales figures, etc. -- Johnfos 11:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Assessing as Start[edit]

For all the reasons above, and a few others (lack of perspective, mainly: how was it "authorised"? What is the relationship between NM and the author? How was it recieved? Was there any response made to the accusation of "friendship forgery" by the previous bio? Description of the book content is not enough), I'm assessing this article as Start-Class.--SidiLemine 12:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


Iregularities between articles[edit]

The data on the Goodbye Bafana movie page directly contradicts the data on this page regarding the movie. The data in the movie page seems better referenced than the data on this page. Could someone please clean this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.32.195 (talk) 00:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

What data are you referring to? There is more information about the film on its own page, of course. Since the defences are not a direct response to the book's criticism of the film, I don't know that it's right to include them here.
After the film's release, August, Haysbert et al were interviewed about whether the film was accurate, given Sampson's account. That would be a good place to start. BillMasen (talk) 21:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)