Talk:Maxime Grousset

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Article Maxime Grousset initially unassessed at 09:56 on 13 August 2018 (per talk page revision history), assessed as Stub at 17:28 on 26 March 2019 (per talk page revision history). Tanis Coralee Leonhardi (talk) 17:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Removal of information about sibling

I have removed the disputed content regarding his sibling, per WP:BLP and WP:BLPRESTORE. There was an ANI discussion (Special:Diff/1228080985) which brought this to attention. I have copied-and pasted my and Johnuniq's comments on the article subject below:

Opening this discussion to establish its inclusion or exclusion based on consensus. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given the sister isn't a notable person by Wikipedia's standards, why does this content need to be included? It's fair to assume that the person removing the content is potentally a member of the family. I feel like a decent argument could be made to exclude the content. Daniel (talk) 17:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC) (Copied from ANI 10:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Standard procedure is that it is good to add blue links (notable people) for relatives to a bio. However, mentioning relatives because we can is bad. What reliable source describes how the sister has influenced the subject of the article, Maxime Grousset? What reliable source has commented on how the accomplishments of the sister are related to those of the subject? Johnuniq (talk) 08:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC) (Copied from ANI 10:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]
The sister is a public figure. Whether she has enough notability for her own article on Wikipedia is another thing, but she is not a private citizen and has had significant media coverage of her own and specifically linking her and Maxime together. There are countless articles in French media attaching the two because of Maxime's participation in the 2024 Olympics and Emma's participation in Miss France in the same year and how their success has arrived at the same time. I have attached just a few sources here, but there are genuinely an abundance of sources that cover this relationship, and frankly, I can find even more information on Emma than I can find on Maxime.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]^[10] I do not believe the IP is a family member considering he has made disparaging comments about Emma calling her a "non-notable personality" (which is untrue), especially considering Emma already has coverage elsewhere on Wikipedia on articles relating to Miss France and Miss New Caledonia. Removing her from Maxime's article would not remove her from Wikipedia because of that, and so I fail to see how removing her from Maxime's article has anything to do with protecting her privacy. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 13:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] "Miss France 2024 : Emma Grousset (Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie 2023) est la soeur d'un célèbre champion du monde".

[2] "Miss France 2024 : l'entretien exclusif d'Emma Grousset avant l'élection".

[3] "Miss France 2024 : 5 choses à savoir sur Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie Emma Grousset".

[4] "Qui est Emma Grousset, Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie 2023 ?".

[5] "Miss France 2024 : Emma Grousset, Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie, prend la parole après la destitution de sa concurrente".

[6] "Miss France 2024 : Emma Grousset est la sœur d'un célèbre champion du monde".

[7] "PORTRAIT Miss France 2024 : Qui est Emma Grousset, Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie 2023, dont le frère est un champion du monde ?".

[8] "Le célèbre frère de la VRAIE Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie 2023 réagit à sa façon à la polémique ! PHOTOS".

[9] "Polémique Miss France 2024 : Emma Grousset élue Miss Nouvelle Calédonie, son frère est un célèbre sportif !".

[10] "Miss France 2024 : Emma Grousset (Miss Nouvelle-Calédonie 2023) fait une belle déclaration à son frère Maxime Grousset, champion du monde de natation".

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