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Education[edit]

Justification for the Deletion of University of Texas–Pan American[edit]

The University of Texas–Pan American has been deleted from this article due to the fact that the university belongs to another city thus making the statement irrelevant. If such statement is left uncorrected then one is giving erroneous justification for other users to input Universities and/or Important Locations on their page permeating counterfactual information- the ultimate offense to the philosophy of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sglooney316 (talkcontribs) 20:05, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


The city of McAllen doesn't have a University it only has a community college. Thus, I renamed the content section to read "Community College." --F15 sanitizing eagle (talk) 20:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

There is a UTPA teaching center, with classrooms, in McAllen. I am not sure how much of a direct presence a university needs in a city to be listed (Texas A&M also has an office and Health Sciences center in McAllen. 24.167.52.195 (talk) 22:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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Racial makeup is wrong for this. It says 75% is white, and 80% are hispanic. The math is all wrong. I'm white, so according to this, my people are -5% of the population.

It's because wikipedia articles on population demographics in cities invariably use the official US census categories, and most hispanics are counted as "white" in the census. Some hispanics may also be counted as "black," however (think Sammy Sosa). So that accounts for the difference. 75% of residents are white (including both Anglos and Hispanics) and 80% are Hispanics (including "white hispanics" and "black hispanics"). I agree, it's rather misleading, and it's a big problem in wikipeda articles. If you are familiar with McAllen and the Valley, you know that the overwhelming majority of the population is Mexican, and can figure out what the demographic breakdown probably means But if you're not-- you could get the impression that there is a 3/4 majority of Anglos living along the border (!), or simply get confused since the numbers don't add up to 100% (given that the categories are like comparing "race" to "ethnicity", i.e., apples to oranges).


Thank you for clearing that up.

Just read the web page on McAllen.[edit]

And being from McAllen, born and raised, I feel that the short description of my city is accurate. Although I do agree with the previous person who left a comment on this web page about the racial makeup, the census bureau population counts are not accurate counting many American’s from Mexican descent as white is very misinforming. Ignoring that the page does undeniable explain this region explosive growth goes hand and hand with birth of NAFTA and the influnces of wealthy and upper middle class Mexican citizens who spend their pesos in the valley.

The census bureau's figures are based on how people describe themselves. There are usually two questions on the census form, one being "What race? White, African American, Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, mixed race or other?" and the other being "Are you Hispanic/Latino or not?" Most Hispanics/Latinos will answer "white" to the first question and "yes" to the second (although some will give other answers for the first question, especially "other"), while most Anglos will answer "white" to the first question and "no" to the second. I suspect that the vast majority of the 15.85% in McAllen who declared themselves to be of "other" races were Hispanics who felt uncomfortable calling themselves "white" even though other people with basically the same ethnic background did call themselves "white". User:Angr 15:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, some of the Mexicans who arrive from Monterrey are "white" and mostly or fully European. Most of the local Mexican Americans are definitely Mestizo and "brown." Mexico is roughy 10% white, 70% Mestizo, 20% Indian. But the Census does a poor job with distinguishing this, and historically, errs on the side of overstating the white component of the Mexican American population.70.115.171.96 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:03, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Some of this article still reads too much like a tourist bureau advertisement, i.e., the "musical sounds of the Spanish language," etc. There is still too much POV. Another scrub to take out a few adjectives and POV phrases here and there is needed.

What % of the poplulation would you call white in the city--not hispanic?

there should be a picture of McAllen's skyline.76.211.213.85 03:38, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

McAllen has a skyline?  :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.90.86 (talk) 23:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

One has to go by what the Census Bureau states...or else you may get city articles where people write nonsense like "While 78.2% of the people are White, many of these people are not really what you and I would call white." Its also fascinating to note that Hispanic Texans are far more likely to select "white" than Hispanic Californians. 24.167.52.195 (talk) 23:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Snow[edit]

It snowed in McAllen on Christmas of 2004.

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Are there any known people who came from McAllen? Example: Mission is Tom Landry's hometown. It might be interesting to add some "factoids" like that.

Are there any known people who came from McAllen? (supposed to be header for the above) ^^^[edit]

. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.210.69 (talk) 23:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Crime rate in McAllen, Texas ?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.115.76.40 (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

History?[edit]

I hate Mcallen and think it's the scum of all Texas towns. I would much rather live in Corpus, Laredo or even Abilene or Lubbock bedore I'd have to live in McAllen. YUCK. ()I'm allowed to say that, this is a discussion page)

Nevertheless... does anyone have ANY history on the city of mcallen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.9.129 (talk) 21:45, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I'd say McAllen is the "scum" of Texas towns; I agree, except for the beach, the Valley definitely sucks. But would you really rather live in Roma? La Feria? Donna?? Or Brownsville, for that matter? Now those places SUCK. I lived my first 18 years in the valley, and if I never see it again, it will be too soon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.141.100 (talk) 12:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Crime / Gangs[edit]

Does anybody have any info/statistics on crime and gangs? That's what I came to the McAllen page to read about. I remember passing through McAllen in the early 1960's on vacation on the way to Mexico and it was lovely, but I imagine that, like Houston etc that it now has a large component of crime and gangs. Any info? Perhaps somebody in law enforcement in McAllen who read this can add the info. Thanks in advance to anybody who has this info and can put it up.109.154.26.227 (talk) 09:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

  • Crime stats in McAllen aren't really that notable. Yes, there's crime, but just like any fast-growing urban area. If anything, the McAllen area is a drug trafficking corridor for the Gulf Cartel, but it happens under water. If you find any reliable sources that indicate something extraordinary about McAllen, please put them in the talkpage so we can discuss them. Cheers. ComputerJA (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Unformatted Health Data[edit]

There was some unformatted data and a random link, neither of which seemed very helpful to the main idea of the paragraph. I've included it below if somebody want to clean up, cite, and put it back if they feel it's relevant.

> Obesity rate: 38.5% > Pct. with high blood pressure: 26.6% (57th lowest) > Pct. exercise regularly: 52.2% (79th lowest) > Poverty rate: 37.7% (the highest) > Pct. with at least bachelors degree: 16.0% (30th lowest)

Read more: America’s Fattest Cities – 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/2013/04/12/americas-fattest-cities/#ixzz2Y2ZKIhFw

164.107.222.225 (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Advert/Dubious info[edit]

After reading several parts of the article, the edits on here boast about the city too much. Also, poverty rate data is incorrect. Being that McAllen is the poorest area in the US, I find it odd when the poverty rate is 20%. When you type 'mcallen poverty rate', 33% of residents and almost 46% of children are below the poverty line. Editor(s) on here are trying to promote the city.

No city, especially one with a small population such as McAllen, places 2012 census estimates at the top of the Demographics section, while later mentioning 2000 census data, which by the way has inaccurate data. This is a lame attempt at promoting the city. De88 (talk) 04:35, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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