Talk:Medardo Mairena
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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Mairena in 2020
- ... that peasant leader Medardo Mairena (pictured) has helped organize almost 100 marches opposing the proposed Nicaraguan Canal? (Source: “Y es que tanto Mena como Mairena han estado detrás de las casi 100 marchas contra el canal que los campesinos han realizado en todo el país, para que se derogue la ley canalera” La Prensa)
- ALT1:... that Nicaraguan presidential pre-candidate Medardo Mairena (pictured) farms corn, quiquisque, and yucca? Source: "155 manzanas de tierra tiene Medardo Mairena en Punta Gorda, donde siembra maíz, quiquisque, yuca" (La Prensa)
- ALT2:... that peasant leader Medardo Mairena (pictured) is the sixth pre-candidate for president in 2021 Nicaraguan general election to be arrested since June 2021? (Source: “Entre los detenidos están dos figuras relevantes de la oposición: el estudiante Lesther Alemán y el campesino Medardo Mairena, quien se convierte en el sexto precandidato presidencial apresado desde el mes de junio por el sandinismo.” El Pais)
Moved to mainspace by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC).
Article is new, more than long enough and within policy. Hooks are well formatted, neutral, and I'm sufficiently conversant in Spanish to validate the sources. QPQ met. Image is excellent quality and licensing checks out. Regarding the selection of the hook, (IMHO) ALT2 is the most widely interesting of the lot and I'd recommend picking this, although the word "pre-candidate" is a little awkward and not explained in the body -- I take it this means they've announced their candidate, but it hasn't been officially accepted? The main hook is also OK, but kind of bland. ALT1 doesn't seem particularly interesting, you'd expect a peasant leader to farm! Jpatokal (talk) 03:03, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- Jpatokal, thank you for this review! I agree that ALT2 is the more interesting if we can make it not too confusing. Pre-candidate is a legalistic distinction because parties formally registered their candidates on August 2; until then everyone was a pre-candidate. (And as the entry notes, by law those imprisoned could not advance.) I checked English sources for better translations and some got around this by saying “presidential hopeful” or “contender”, while others just said “candidate” (CNN, Guardian, NYT). So if necessary we could just use candidate, but “aspiring candidate” might be clear and also faithful to this distinction (which is invoked by all the sources cited in the entry)? I could trim off the “since June 2021” to make it less clunky. (It’s also past-tense now, which I’ve updated in the entry as well.)
- ALT2a:... that peasant leader Medardo Mairena (pictured) was the sixth aspiring candidate for president in 2021 Nicaraguan general election to be arrested?
- If that sounds good to you, I could also update the entry to use the same language. Really appreciate your input! Innisfree987 (talk) 04:39, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- Otherwise looks good, but just to confirm the wording, "was an aspiring candidate" implies both that they were never formally registered and that they're out of the election now? Or is there still a possibility for them to be a full candidate, in which case it should be "is an aspiring candidate"? Jpatokal (talk) 04:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- The first is correct—he’s still in prison and the parties registered their candidates on Monday August 2, so by law all the jailed pre-candidates were excluded from becoming formal candidates. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- How convenient. Looks good then, ship it! Jpatokal (talk) 05:35, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- The first is correct—he’s still in prison and the parties registered their candidates on Monday August 2, so by law all the jailed pre-candidates were excluded from becoming formal candidates. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- Otherwise looks good, but just to confirm the wording, "was an aspiring candidate" implies both that they were never formally registered and that they're out of the election now? Or is there still a possibility for them to be a full candidate, in which case it should be "is an aspiring candidate"? Jpatokal (talk) 04:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- Jpatokal, thank you for this review! I agree that ALT2 is the more interesting if we can make it not too confusing. Pre-candidate is a legalistic distinction because parties formally registered their candidates on August 2; until then everyone was a pre-candidate. (And as the entry notes, by law those imprisoned could not advance.) I checked English sources for better translations and some got around this by saying “presidential hopeful” or “contender”, while others just said “candidate” (CNN, Guardian, NYT). So if necessary we could just use candidate, but “aspiring candidate” might be clear and also faithful to this distinction (which is invoked by all the sources cited in the entry)? I could trim off the “since June 2021” to make it less clunky. (It’s also past-tense now, which I’ve updated in the entry as well.)