Talk:Meteor III
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Gross register tons and net register tons are not measures of displacement. I converted the field to tonnage, which apparently is not supported by the infobox. I have requested help here. In the meantime, please do not restore displacement as it is erroneous. Kablammo (talk) 15:06, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- I have used a different template which supports a tonnage field. If and when the yacht infobox template does the same, it can be changed back. Kablammo (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 13:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Comments
- Article title needs italicising, use something like {{italic title}}.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- I know the article is brief, but the lead could use a little more.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- German Emperor in the lead, Kaiser in the infobox, be consistent.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Where is the tonnage in the infobox referenced?
Done - Reference [1} "Schonerjacht METEOR III" says Verdrängung 314 t. Removed tonnage numbers of 162 NRT and 170 GRT as no references could be found to verify these.
- "Yampa passed through several" -> "Yampa had several"
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "eventually purchased by the German emperor." "was" missing here. And again, be consistent with Wilhelm's title.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:17, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- " in foreign regattas" foreign to Germany?
Done - changed "foreign" to European
- "was so well pleased" no need for well.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "the naval architect Smith" probably should introduce him as this, not wait until his third mention.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:44, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "had going of naming" no need for "going".
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:52, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Meteor III, was built" no comma.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:19, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "to put together " construct?
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:21, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Miss Alice Roosevelt" why Miss?
Done - took out "Miss" and copy edited to show "18 year old daughter." --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "emperor's younger brother, Prince Henry of Prussia, traveled from Europe to New York City to attend as the Kaiser's " emperor and Kaiser in the same sentence!
Done - corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "10:30 A.M." -> 10:30 a.m. (with a non-breaking space).
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Miss Roosevelt christened the American-built schooner constructed for the emperor " Alice. And we know it was American-built and constructed for the emperor already, no need to repeat again.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The yacht up to that point was just labeled job No. 24 by the shipyard. " -> "Up to that point, the yacht was referred to as job no. 24 by the shipyard"
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Next to her was Prince Henry, President Roosevelt, and a group of official guests." you've said most of this already.
Done - removed this sentence. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The time was 10:39 in the morning." odd brief sentence, merge the salient point (10:39 a.m.) into one of the preceding sentences.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "As the champagne was still foaming" sounds like a tabloid report.
Done - removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Miss Roosevelt used a silver looking nickel hatchet to cut the cord that then released the yacht into the water" repeating a little of the previous sentence. And just stick with Alice. And do you mean "silver-looking"?
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Cannons were fired and brass bands were played. There " merge, "Cannons were fired, brass bands played and there ..."
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 08:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Meteor III yacht leaving" italics for yacht name.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "was launched into the water a message" comma after water.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Harries put the yacht for sale " maybe USEng, but I'd say "up" for sale.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "sale in 1921 at Barcelona, Spain.[22] It sold in 1922 " repetitive.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "n 1924 Bunau-Varilla sold her to Italian " rename the boat here.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "for a few months" not encyclopedic tone.
Done corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "who didn't " avoid contractions.
Done corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "resold her to Gerald S. Foley who later sold her to a Mr. David Feinburg. Feinburg sold" repetitive repetitive.
Done - corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The Navy requisitioned" by the time we've done the rounds, worth emphasising that this was the United States Navy.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:56, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "and became the property" she became.
Done - copy edited. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- You abbreviate WSA but never use it, pointless.
Done - removed "WSA" --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "owners updated the yacht during their ownership" repetitive.
Done - corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "by the War Shipping Administration since" okay so use WSA here instead.
Done - copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:10, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- " the yacht was originally built in 1902. The yacht that" repetitive "the yacht".
Done - copy edited accordingly.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "broken up and taken apart" tautological.
Done - copy edited accordingly.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:25, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Meteor III was based on the Yampa design. (circa 1902)" -> "Meteor III (circa 1902) was based on the Yampa design."
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- waterline or water-line?
Done corrected to 120 feet on the water line --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- " the emperor.[5][7][30] The emperor " repetitive.
Done - copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- " in Colonial Adams" no idea what this means.
Done copy edited and linked. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:56, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Spaced hyphens in the ref titles should be spaced en-dashes.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Italics for ship names throughout.
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
That's it on a first pass. On hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 18:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: - all issues addressed. Can you take another look at it now. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Doug Coldwell vastly improved, really good work. I made a couple of minor tweaks, but I'm good to go with promotion now, so well done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 13:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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