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cleanup

No sources, poor language, missing wikipedic form. --tickle me 01:24, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it needs improvement.

Merge?

Perhaps this should be merged with Second migration to Abyssinia. While there probably were two emigration events (though this is disputed), they were closely related, and half the material in the other article is repeated in this one. There is no logical way to read the two articles in sequence; the reader ends up confused. I would suggest headings something like the following:

Background.
First Emigration.
List of Emigrants.
First Return.
Second Emigration.
List of Emigrants.
Quraysh Delegation.
Second Return.
Third Return.
Fourth Return.
Legends Connected with the Emigration ... & etc.

But also include in chronological order all the other events that occurred at each stage.Grace has Victory (talk) 10:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Separate history from legend please

This article needs a clearer separation of fact from fiction and legend. For example is there any serious proof that the Ethiopian king accepted Islam? Later Ethiopian kings were still Christians. Also is there any kind of even half reliable proof that people from the Migration preached in Canton, China? -- 92.224.247.182 (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. In its current form, it is simply an uncritical regurgitation of the traditional Islamic POV.Grace has Victory (talk) 10:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nice legend that Negus accepted Islam, but Ethiopian kings (at that time, and ever after) were always Orthodox Christian.

From what Ethiopian and Islam sources agree is that King of Ethiopia did grant them refugee on recognoizing Islam and Christianity share some of same beliefs (one god, virgin mary, Jesus as prophet) and that should be acknowledged as first multicultural acceptance of both faiths as equal :-) and so it was in Ethiopia were Islam is second most widespread religion, treated equaly.

http://www.al-islam.org/restatement-history-islam-and-muslims-sayyid-ali-ashgar-razwy/two-migrations-muslims-abyssinia

When questioned on this point by the king, Jaafer said: “Our judgment of Jesus is the same as that of Allah and His Messenger, viz., Jesus is God's servant, His Prophet, His Spirit, and His command given unto Mary, the innocent virgin.”

When Jaaffer concluded his speech, the king asked him to read some verses which were revealed to the Prophet of the Muslims. Jaafer read a few verses from Surah Maryam (Mary), the 19th chapter of Al-Qur’an al-Majid. When the king heard these verses, he said that their fountainhead was the same as that of the verses of the Evangel. He then declared that he was convinced of his veracity, and added, to the great chagrin of Amr bin Aas, that the Muslims were free to live in his kingdom for as long as they wished.

The king said: “Jesus is just what you have stated him to be, and is nothing more than that.” Then addressing the Muslims, he said: “Go to your homes and live in peace. I shall never give you up to your enemies.” He refused to extradite the Muslims, returned the presents which Amr bin Aas had brought, and dismissed his embassy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasvoja (talk • contribs) 21:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

hadith

Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:364

A hadith attributed to Abu Musa We got the news of the migration of the Prophet while we were in Yemen, so we set out migrating to him. We were, I and my two brothers, I being the youngest, and one of my brothers was Abu Burda and the other was Abu Ruhm. We were over fifty (or fifty-three or fifty two) men from our people. We got on board a ship which took us to An-Najashi in Ethiopia, and there we found Ja'far bin Abu Talib and his companions with An-Najaishi. Ja'far said (to us), "Allah's Apostle has sent us here and ordered us to stay here, so you too, stay with us." We stayed with him till we all left (Ethiopia) and met the Prophet at the time when he had conquered Khaibar. He gave us a share from its booty (or gave us from its booty). He gave only to those who had taken part in the Ghazwa with him. but he did not give any share to any person who had not participated in Khaibar's conquest except the people of our ship, besides Ja'far and his companions, whom he gave a share as he did them (i.e. the people of the ship). reports:^{[citation needed]}

--Striver 03:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:58:216

A hadith attributed to Abu Musa We received the news of the departure of the Prophet (to Medina) while we were in Yemen. So we went on board a ship but our ship took us away to An-Najashi (the Negus) in Ethiopia. There we met Ja'far bin Abi Talib and stayed with him till we came (to Medina) by the time when the Prophet had conquered Khaibar. The Prophet said, "O you people of the ship! You will have (the reward of) two migrations." reports:^{[citation needed]}

--Striver 03:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 217:

Narrated Jabir:

When Negus died, the Prophet said, "Today a pious man has died. So get up and offer the funeral prayer for your brother Ashama

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 218:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah Al-Ansari:

Allah's Apostle led the funeral prayer for the Negus and made us stand in rows behind him and I was in the second or third row.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 219:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet offered the funeral prayer for Ashama, the Negus, with four Takbir.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 220:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

that Allah's Apostle informed them (i.e. his companions) of the death of Negus, the king of Ethiopia, on the very day on which the latter died, and said, "Ask Allah's Forgiveness for your brother" Abu Huraira further said, "Allah's Apostle made them (i.e. the Muslims) stand in rows at the Musalla (i.e. praying place) and led the funeral prayer for the Negus and said four Takbir."

--Striver 03:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[1] --Striver 03:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of first followers

According to citation No. 1 we have two migrations of muslims to Abyssinia, first one with 11 men and 4 women, second one with 83 men and 18 women. The first migration should be integrated in the article!

-- Uwe Martens (talk) 05:28, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done.

-- Uwe Martens (talk) 07:30, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]