Talk:Milton Grant

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
July 12, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed
January 15, 2024	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 8, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Milton Grant went from disc jockey and bandstand host to an owner of television stations?

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

Passed. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:12, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Milton Grant/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MyCatIsAChonk (talk · contribs) 18:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your progress in the WikiCup and i'm quite impressed- happy to review! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 18:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sammi Brie: The article is already very high quality, just some minor tweaks needed. Great job! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:01, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	...such brands as Pepsi, Motorola. and Briggs... - period to comma ...though The Post could not even obtain a confirmation of his death... - cut "even" ...Nexstar Broadcasting Group announced that it would purchase the Grant stations for $87.5 million... - make past tense, WP:INTOTHEWOULDS Due to Federal Communications Commission ownership regulations... - previously in the article it just said FCC- why the full name later? If anything, the full name should be said first, then the acronym later. ~~Header "Former Grant-owned stations" needs to be an en dash (–) per MOS:DASH~~ Well-written prose with no typos
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead summarizes the article well, no words to watch, proper layout- no MOS violations
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	~~The table needs references; maybe add a ref column, or if you have a source that lists them all you can put it in the table header~~ List of references is properly formatted
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Article is well-cited to reliable news sources
	2c. it contains no original research.	Article contains many references, no OR visible
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig shows no copyvios/plagiarism. The high scores on a few sources are due to quotes and names.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Article addresses the aspects of Milton's life and his personal life
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Stays focused throughout
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	No bias visible
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	No edit wars
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Only image (File:WLAXTVStudio.jpg) is properly CC tagged.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Image is relevant and properly captioned. I was surprised to find no image of Grant present, but after some searching, there only seems to be one in Google Images, and the source is dubious.
	7. Overall assessment.

@MyCatIsAChonk: I've added a reference column to the table. One objection I'll make, though I've reworded: The "would" here makes sense because in broadcasting the deal takes time to close and requires FCC approval. As for the image...yeah. Grant was notoriously reticent to speak to the media, especially in his later years (really after Grant II got going). The Regardie's interview, which was a cover story, was nearly impossible to track down, but DanCherek at WP:RX somehow pulled it off. I'm sure you can tell I had a lot of fun researching this topic; it is the key article for an intended GT which, after this is passed, will be 9 of 16. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Sammi Brie: Was surprised to find so little on Grant after quick Google searches, almost questioned the notability of the man... very impressed by your research for this article. Good to go for GA! By the way, if you ever have extra time on your hands, I have an open GA on John Oliver- no obligation, of course, just saw you were active as a reviewer and thought it was worth mentioning. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:09, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Image query

With regards to the lack of image: the one that's on IMDb/Google Images seems to source to this clipping cited in the article. Given that fair-use images are usable for deceased subjects, is there a reason it isn't included in the article? Vaticidalprophet 22:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 01:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article history

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... that Milton Grant went from disc jockey and bandstand host to an owner of television stations? Source: Schudel, Matt (May 3, 2007). "Milt Grant; Dance Host, TV Station Entrepreneur". The Washington Post. p. B7.
- ALT1: ... that Milton Grant was notoriously reticent to divulge his age and told an interviewer, "We're all so caught up in this age thing"? Source: Miller, Stephen (May 19, 2007). "Remembrances". The Wall Street Journal. p. A6.
- ALT2: ... that the 1986 bankruptcy of the Grant Broadcasting System burst a bubble in independent TV stations? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/22/business/good-signs-for-tv-independents.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thorfinn (Vinland Saga)
- Comment: Trying to avoid hooks from the Milt Grant Show section as that is a pending GAN with multiple potential hook possibilities.

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 08:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Milton Grant; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 20:56, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Another GA. Sammi Brie, I also fixed the ref for ALT1 (which I accessed on WL) since it's almost certainly an error; hope you don't mind. ミラP@Miraclepine 21:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]