Talk:Muhammad I of Granada

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Mohammed I ibn Nasr nacio en en Arjona (Jaen). No en Arjuno

Mohammed I Ibn Nasr was born in Arjona (Jaen). Non in Arjuno

Clarification[edit]

Thanks Seraphim System for the copyedit. About your two clarification requests:

  • About the second paragraph of the lead, indeed Muhammad's 18 years of peaceful relations with Castile was followed by conflicts, beginning with 1264 when Muhammad supported Muslim rebels in Castile. If this transition sounded abrupt, I added "however" and "turned against", to help reader realize this. Does that help? I'm open to other suggestions as well.
  • About the Muslim vs Christian POV regarding the reason for "Initial conflict with Castile", the secondary source (Harvey) just presented the two accounts without deciding who's right. I don't object to your removal of "crusading drive". Do you need further clarification about this?

--HaEr48 (talk) 12:39, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I added contemporary to make it clear that the disagreement is in primary sources, not secondary sources. Is there any additional secondary source analysis about the causes? (Secondary sources do not always fully rely on primary source accounts but have a more complex analysis. I think it would be good to say something here about what the majority view is in current secondary sources about the causes of the war, as this is a different issue from what the primary source accounts say.)Seraphim System (talk) 17:18, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I removed the clause about 1,500 sheep because I did not think it was essential and I thought the sentence was easier to read without it. I think "tried to send supplies" and "efforts were thwarted by beseigers" is stronger without being interrupted by the detail about sheep—in my opinion this lessened the impact of the sentence so I removed it. Another question about the initial conflicts in Castille — since this is a biography, I don't think we should go into too much detail about the battles, but do the sources say anything more about Muhammad's involvement or responses to the conflict, beyond trying to relieve Jaen and agreeing to terms with Ferdinand? Seraphim System (talk) 19:29, 26 June 2017 (UTC)