Talk:Narváez expedition

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East/west

This article states: "The next month was spent trying to reach the Mexican coast, but they couldn't overcome the Gulf Stream's powerful current. Instead, they ended up on the Eastern shore of Florida." Is this really correct? All the rest of the activities seems to have been on the western side of the peninsula.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.88.6.61 (talk) 07:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, your are correct. I was thinking about the eastern shore of Mexico they were trying to get to, and they wound up on the western shore of Florida. Sorry about that. Prometheusg 03:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. I've been writing an entry on the expedition for the Norwegian wikipedia, and needed to get thimgs correct.

I have changed Refugios for Naufragios, the real name of the book written by Cabeza de Vaca. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vbrcat (talk • contribs) 21:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article expansion

I've considerably expanded two sections of the article and I intend to continue. I would like opinions on where to end the article temporally. Someone else has stated that the expedition ends with Narváez's death, but the most historically significant portion of the story had just barely begun. It seems short-sighted to end the article with his death. Without any contrary opinions, I'm going to try to continue the expansion of the article to the point the last four survivors reach Mexico City. Prometheusg 14:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might be feasible to create another article about the journey of Cabeza de Vaca and company (perhaps Cabeza de Vaca journey?). However, I see no problem with expanding this article to include that information instead, as that voyage was obviously necessitated by the Narvaez expedition, however it officially ended. If no one has objections, I'd recommend starting it here first, and then splitting the new info into its own article if this one gets too long.--Cúchullain ^t/c 22:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aute

"When the Spanish finally reached Aute, they found the village already deserted and burnt."

The link in the text "Aute" redirects to an article about Luis Eduardo Aute (born September 13, 1943, not a location in Spanish Florida. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike.frontier (talk • contribs) 14:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Survivors

Intro paragraph states "Over the next few years, more men died, and only four of the original party survived" but the men that stayed in the ships survived, too. Where did they sail to? Most sources say Spain.

It also states "finally managed to rejoin Spanish countrymen in present-day Mexico City" but de Vaca wrote they met Spaniards in present-day Sinaloa. Tangverse (talk) 21:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tampa Bay

Shouldn't we at least mention the idea that Tampa Bay is NOT universally recognized as the landing site? There is ample evidence to suggest the actual landing occurred south, at Charlotte Harbor, not least the multiple references to the large shallow bay the initial reconnaissance parties discovered to the north, which argues against a landing site on Pinellas. See for example Resendez "A Land So Strange." 76.182.88.168 (talk) 23:17, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Improving Certain Subsections

After reading this article, I think it could be improved through a few of the subsections at the end. For example, in the South Texas subsection, there could be a lot more information. Cabeza de Vaca and others were stranded on the Isle of Ill Fate, which they called "Malhado," for several years, enslaved by the Native Americans there. The South Texas section could definitely be expanded to chronicle their time on Malhado.

Secondly, in the "Southwestern North America" subsection, there could be a lot more information concerning the reputation that the three Spaniards and the African earned while travelling through Southwestern North America. They were so well respected by the Native Americans that each time they encountered a new group, the Native Americans would bring all sorts of gifts to the four outsiders in the hopes that these men would heal their ill. Their reputation as healers allowed the three Spaniards and the African to travel throughout much of Northern Mexico. These are important details that I think should definitely be included in the "Southwestern North America" subsection.

JosephJT (talk) 22:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I think a lot more can be said about the sections on South Texas, Southwestern North America, and Representation in the Media. There could also be more information written on the relations between the Native Americans and the Spaniards. Cabragg21 (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The sign marking the landing of the Narváez expedition is inaccurate.

The claim on the historical marker at the Jungle Prada Site marking the landing of the Narváez expedition is inaccurate. The historical marker's claim that Pánfilo de Narváez's landing in 1528 marked "the first exploration by white man of the North American Continent" is false.

The first known European explorers to reach North America were the Norse, led by Leif Erikson around the year 1000, who established a settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. Additionally, John Cabot explored parts of the North American mainland, in what is now Canada, likely Newfoundland or Labrador, in 1497.

Also, three Spanish expeditions preceded the Narvaez Expedition. These expeditions include Juan Ponce de León, who in 1513 made his first landing on the east coast of Florida and named the region "La Florida" near St Augustine. Juan Ponce de León returned in 1521 with a colonizing expedition near what is now Port Charlotte, Florida, but it failed due to hostile encounters with the native Calusa people. Finally, Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón arrived with an expedition in 1526 where he attempted to establish the colony of San Miguel de Gualdape, likely in present-day Georgia or South Carolina. This colony was short-lived and failed within a few months. 0gravitytampabay (talk) 04:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]