Talk:National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations

Edits to member pages

For what it's worth, I've been updating all articles for the current NALFO members. Many were missing crests due to incorrect attribution of "fair use" rules. These are fixed, and the crests I've uploaded should pass any review.

Meanwhile, I've updated the infoboxes on most of the pages to meet the Fraternity and Sorority Project standard, a group of some 100 editors interested in the Greek Letter Organization movement. There are about 40 of us who are pretty active. We recently added a global parameter (these things --> "|affiliation = NALFO") that populate the infobox, so now each of NALFO's member organizations' infoboxes show that the are a member of one or more of the conferences. Simple awareness of your trade group may help retain members for NALFO. Pages for the former members, too, have a note now that indicates this status, as a former member. Where possible, I've updated physical addresses and made other format improvements.

Many readers who have worked on various NALFO articles are new inexperienced editors, whose efforts to write an article about the group they care about may have been, in their view, "unfairly" deleted. I understand. Most often this has been because of clear copy-and-paste content that violates Wikipedia's policy on copyright violation. Even an executive director of a fraternity cannot simply past their own website's content onto a page; it must be at least paraphrased, or summarized, and "overly-promotional" language must be avoided. Then it must be properly referenced back to the original source. If it had been me, I'd have helped you write better pages, but some editors over the past decade have obviously taken the easy way out and just put "your" page up for deletion. Sadly, this may have led YOU to avoid Wikipedia, to avoid updating your articles, and to kind of give up on the whole thing. I urge you to stick with it. We'll get these pages right, and hopefully potential members will see them and reach out to you as they enter their collegiate careers.

As I see it, two of NALFO's current members still have deleted articles: Alpha Pi Sigma and Gamma Phi Omega. In each case I've written to WP administration to ask to see the former page, and will write them/restore them in such a way that they match the others here, fully supported by references. Thus they should be able to avoid future deletion votes.

Meanwhile, please ensure any edits you make are "encyclopedic" in nature, with neutral, 3rd party language instead of waxing all poetic about the glories of your Founding Mothers and the beautiful, mythic story of your expansion. All fraternities have these; but they aren't suitable for an encyclopedia. The stories are fine for your OWN website, but the various editors that scout these pages for changes don't like what they call "peacock" language. Jax MN (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)