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Globalization[edit]

I feel this article should either include a more international flavour, or be retitled "Neighborhood watch in the US).Winstonwolfe 02:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

The article on 'Neighborhood Watch' should be retitled to 'Neighborhood Watch (US)' and the proposed merge should NOT occur. The UK related article should be retitled to 'Neighborhood Watch (UK)'. The programs are significantly different between UK and the US - most importantly, the organizational names are different. In addition, US Neighborhood Watches have to contend with partnerships with HOAs and COAs, which are not significant in the UK context. Perhaps a search for "Neighborhood Watch || Neighbourhood Watch" would present a page that would allow users to choose US or UK versions. Brichardson2001 (talk) 22:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

  • What are HOAs and COAs? My feeling is that the 'u' is the main difference. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 23:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I agree with Brichardson2001. Neighbourhood Watch in the UK and US are very different although the principles are similar. Keep the pages separate based on the different spelling, ideally with references to the other: UK>US, US>UK. gazzaf 02:16, 13 Jun 2008 (GMT)

Heading Wikiproject Australia?[edit]

OK, the Australian Neighbourhood Watch is credited with the arrest of two French agents involved in the Sinking of the Rainbow Warrior which is a notable event (also indicating NW has been active in Australia for at least three decades) but the only mention of Australian NW is a caption to a photo (photos being ephemeral)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naaman Brown (talkcontribs) 10:43, April 9, 2010

I removed this WikiProject, nw concept is too general to be under the scope of any national wikiproject. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

trayvon martin case[edit]

The organization is embroiled in controversy due to the Trayvon Martin shooting by a Neighborhood Watch member who evidently felt that his membership in neighborhood watch gave him the right to be judge, jury, and executioner. This has long been an organization that encourages vigilante actions, especially in areas with no gun control. It's been controversial for a while and is now even more so due to the shooting. Article should reflect this, and I can find countless news items regarding the controversy (a quick Google News search of "trayvon martin neighborhood watch" turns up no shortage of articles on the controversy). 68.193.168.7 (talk) 21:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

The article currently says "(...)who wasn't acting in his neighborhood watch role at the time of the shooting(...)", without citation for this specific element of the sentence in which it is contained. The citation for that overall sentence contains no information of relevance to the specific quoted element. My understanding is that the defense in the ongoing trial has described Martin as patrolling in his role as a Neighborhood Watchman, and the prosecution has not disagreed with that description. The Neighborhood Watch was numerically small, and Zimmerman was its leader or co-leader, so it's not clear how we can definitively determine who had what schedule, but this video interview from soon after the tragic event [1] with a neighbor of Zimmerman who is described as also being a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, seems to indicate that Zimmerman's actions were in the context of his Neighborhood Watch role. On a controversial issue like this, my view is that it's important to avoid having content that espouses one or another of the currently "hot" views, and therefore that all statements and citations should be carefully reviewed so that viewpoint is not presented as fact. JWilly48519 (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

The article also currently states: "His actions on the night of the shooting generated controversy as he exited his vehicle and was carrying a gun, both of which go against neighborhood watch recommendations." The citations for that sentence appear to have no reference to neighborhood watch recommendations regarding either action, although the controversy is clear enough. I'd recommend removing the latter clause in absence of further references. 134.223.230.200 (talk) 16:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

In the article, it states correctly that Zimmerman was under investigation by the FBI for possible hate crime charges. However, the FBI concluded their investigation and dropped its charges. There are several sources that corroborate this, but I am wary of editing the page and adding in sources since they aren't mainstream media outlets. Even though Zimmerman was cleared of any hate crime charges, I fear another editor would dispute the source alone; the only media outlets I can find covering that fact are CS Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0712/FBI-report-No-evidence-George-Zimmerman-is-racist), Examiner (which has obvious problems), and a few websites that many might not consider "legitimate." I am also wary of making any changes on my own due to the extremely controversial nature of the case. Jennifer Lost the War (talk) 10:16, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Merge from Town watch[edit]

Different uniforms don't seem to be a reason to have to separate articles. The concept seems fine to be discussed here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Topic/content dissonance[edit]

Neighbourhood watches have little or nothing to do with community policing, yet community policing redirects to this article. Community policing refers to boots on the ground, preferably the same boots on the same ground in an ongoing fashion that allows cops to get to know given areas and the people who reside, work, and transact commerce within them. This is contrasted with officers who patrol in vehicles, who can cover bigger areas and respond to incidents faster, at the cost of being distanced from the population and having commensurately less time to observe their surroundings at speed. It also denotes the different approaches used with citizens, more often stopping to chat and otherwise pursuing contacts and relationships that may appear at first glance to "waste time", but raise mutual esteem and better the rapport between the public and the police.

It's said that the police are the public and the public are the police and, broadly speaking, this is true. The public need the police to serve them by investigating crime, arresting criminals, and defending them. The police need the public to serve them by keeping them informed and aware. It is a two-way street. If your local police department has a community policing liaison officer (or more than one), give them a shout. 24.69.174.7 (talk) 05:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

So, should Community policing redirect to Beat (police)? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:39, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Over represented viewpoint and under represented viewpoint[edit]

The town watch section, while similar to neighborhood watches do not need a separate section. Perhaps a wiki link would suffice, which can be stated in a single sentence. The organization and history of neighborhood watch is rooted from the fact of militarization in the United States.

 Citizens desire home security and a place between themselves and public space-- hence the organization of neighborhood watch and gated communities.Mkihiro (talk) 05:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Links/Reference Information[edit]

The paragraph discussing Eliyahu Werdesheim's relationship to Neighborhood Watches is limited on reliable sources. Some of the links no longer work, such as number 10. More information about how incidents like this have had an impact on Neighborhood Watches might be helpful.

The article is neutral and focuses mainly on facts of certain incidents that have occurred. However, the article seems to cover mostly only the negative attention that Neighborhood Watches have received. It might help to elaborate on the reason why the concept of a Neighborhood Watch began in the first place and more positive aspects of it, as well.Mlopez96 (talk) 23:39, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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