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Joun Courville comment

I was the night instrumentation and electrical crew chief on the first flight of the x f100 .It broke the sound barior on its first flight. I have a pix of this ship with night crew the night after the first flight. I retired after 41 years 10 years in flight test, and the remaning in wind tunnel testing. any one interested give me a buzz.— Preceding unsigned comment added by John courville (talk • contribs) 22:36, 25 June 2003

Robert Merkel comment

500 out of 1,200-odd F-100D's crashed? That sounds *awfully* high to me... --Robert Merkel 23:03 25 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Consider this from the F-8 wiki article: "In all, 1,261 Crusaders were built. By the time it was withdrawn from the fleet, 1,106 had been involved in mishaps." 500 from 1200 doesn't sound so bad does it? It's hard to imagine in today's news environment where one crash leads to calls to kill development of a new aircraft that there was a time when crashing planes was a daily event.

Flight test accident

If someone knows the story of how NAA test pilot George Welch was killed dive-testing the prototype, that would be a useful addition.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.225.5 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 25 October 2005

Welch was killed while he was landing the prototype. He flared, added power, took away power, then rolled the Super Sabre until it was almost knife-edge. The Super Sabre stalled and snap-rolled into the ground. Jak474 (talk) 18:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Kind words about the Hun

Is there anything kind to be said about the Hun other than it was fast for its time? The overall impression per my sources is that it was a wretched contraption that never flew right and never worked right. - Emt147 Burninate! 21:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Former Hun pilots seem to be a fraternity primarily because they are survivors. I can't figure out why TAC bought so many of the things.--RandallC 12:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Always love when a couple of wiki-ites give their expert opinion, here's a rebuttal from a 1500-hour F-100 pilot: http://hushkit.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/f-100-super-sabre-a-fighter-pilots-perspective/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.18 (talk) 11:39, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Hydraton31 comment

In response to the guy below, your pictures sound interesting and would, in my opinion, add to the article significantly so register and upload them! On another note, the article says: The modifications cost US$8 million. Is this the cost per unit or in total? Hydraton31 16:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Dates and things

I've just removed a reference to the F-100 flying with NATO and other US allies "in the late 21st century" - I considered changing that to "late 20th century" but given the dates (the 70s, by the look of the article) that could be misleading.

Throughout the rest of the article, dates are given in the format yyyy-mm-dd which reads really oddly in an encyclopedia article. I'm happy to go through and change them, but can anyone tell me what the correct format is as per the style guide? I can't find the reference. Brickie 12:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Good catch on the 21st Century thing. The yyyy-mm-dd format only reads oddly when you edit the article. Wikipedia automatically formats dates based on user preference (e.g. month-date in Europe and date-month in the US) and this format is the best for consistent correct formatting. - Emt147 Burninate! 19:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Project High Wire

I can provide this article with detailed lists of additions/deletions/changes from the 'dash 1' Flight Manual for C, D, and F models of all the High Wire Mods. Would this info be tedious reading and/or worthwhile to our readers and researchers?? I can easily copy/paste from my own computer all this text and y'all can edit-out minor data. Your opinions and suggestions would be most appreciated. LanceBarber 04:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Error in Specifications Section

The orthographically projected diagram of the F-100 Super Sabre is in error. The front view is of a F-86 Sabre Jet, not the F-100. Someone with a good graphic package and skills could modify this for us. Thank you, LanceBarber 17:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Compare F-86 3-view. I think you'll see a great difference between the two, and that the F-100 image is correct. - BillCJ 23:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
You are right, they are different between the two drawings. No question. However, I'ver been around and working on a F-100D 56-3417 at the Wings Over the Rockies Air and Space Museum(previously Lowry Heritage Museum) for 20 years. I've uploaded one of my photos of 417 for comparsion. The drawing does not give justice to the unique identifiable shape of the in-take.
I suppose the drawings are good enough for comparision, and not for details as I would like. I'll stand corrected. Feel free to revert my comments and mark my photo for deletion. I also made the same comment in the Talk:Century series article. Thank you. LanceBarber 01:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
No problem. You might try User:Emoscopes/Requests. This user makes three-views by request. That page gives the information he will need. Try him, and he can probably produce a 3-view that will be better than the existing one. THe photo is actually a nice shot of the Voodoo, except for the Hun sitting in the way ;) . While the Hun is really too dark to see in that shot, you can probably take other pics that would good to post on the Commons pages of the planes that are there. - BillCJ 01:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Request

Hello all You people,

I have some technical questions about the navigation, landing and collision lights. I'm building a model of the F-100D with all lights working, but I don't know were all lights are located, colours and frequency of the strobelights (if they are there). Can, please, someone help me.

Regards and thanks,

Henk Menger henk.menger@xs4all.nl — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.230.173 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 10 August 2007

Sabre or Saber?

Might be a dumb question but it has always puzzled me why the Hun is called Sabre and not Saber which is IMO the correct US way to spell it. It was odd to name it Super Sabre when it is only remotely like the F86 Sabre.

Other points. There is I believe at least another F100 in the UK. One used to be gate guard at Lakenheath which may have been moved to RAF Croughton (see Google Earth). Of course there's one in the USAF Museum at Duxford.

Plus there used to be a company employing white painted Huns from Bournemouth Airport - saw one at RIAT in 1995-ish. Target duties I think.

Fascinating plane but a very 'hot ship'. Royzee (talk) 16:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

From Mer.-Web. online dictionary: ....Etymology: French sabre, modification of German dialect Sabel, from Middle High German, probably of Slavic origin; akin to Russian sablya saber Date: 1680.
Since Boeing bought out North American, check Boeing.com for further history on the Super Sabare. Cheers. LanceBarber (talk) 21:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

You're really not Barry, are you?

Who made the 1953 1st transcon Mach 1 flight? (IIRC, Glenn broke the record.) Trekphiler (talk) 02:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Causality?

This article states: "As the first of the Century Series collection of USAF jet fighters, it was capable of supersonic speed in level flight." This would seem to indicate that the F-100's supersonic capability was a consequence of it being the first Century Series fighter (or vice versa). Don't think the two were necessarily related. Jmdeur (talk) 18:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I fixed this (got rid of "as"). 194.80.106.134 (talk) 15:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

First American supersonic fighter?

Was the F-100 or F4D the first ever supersonic fighter built in the USA? 194.80.106.134 (talk) 15:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Ejection seat ?

I know it has an ejection seat, and the article mentions one pilot ejecting, but there is not mention of it anywhere else. This being an early jet and the first going above the speed of sound in straight flight for the US, the design of the seat had to take that into account I suppose ? Aesma (talk) 07:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Not appropriate

I removed the paid membership website, supersabre.org serial number database from External link. LanceBarber (talk) 16:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Weird content

from the article's content: "Although the F-100 could carry air-to-air missiles, it rarely did. But was sometimes used as an interceptor because there were whole bases of F-100s, which were sometimes bombed by MiGs"

Seriously, what joker inserted this BS two-liner at the end of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.153.233.76 (talk) 20:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

removed. MilborneOne (talk) 20:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Addition of Information

I have a newspaper reference to six F-100s making their first cross country hop from Edwards to Eglin in Aug. 1954 for suitability and armament testing. Would this be something of interest?Lzbthhrn (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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F-100 on display in Valdosta, Georgia?

I believe that there is an F-100 on display in Valdosta, Georgia, at least there was several years ago. Does anyone know? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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