Talk:Nylex

WHAT is Nylex?

I wound up at the Nylex website, https://www.nylex.com.au/, and found that that Melbourne company named Nylex sells garden hoses and other watering supplies, not plastics. The site says they've been around since the 1920s and that they're the Nylex tied to the Nylex Clock. How does that jive with other sources, one of which carries the link that I followed to get to the Nylex website, claiming it's a plastics company founded in 1947, as this article does? Largoplazo (talk) 06:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Ah. There's a plastics and polymers manufacturer in Malaysia named Nylex, http://www.nylexpolymer.com/. Is it possible the two have been confused here? Largoplazo (talk) 06:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

User:Eroske24, can you shed any light on this? Largoplazo (talk) 06:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Further searching turns up multiple references to an "Abandoned Nylex Plastics Factory" and the assertion that Nylex Plastics is defunct, with no indication whether the company called Nylex that sells watering supplies is related (though I would think it would have to be). But the article implies it's a currently operating company. This really does need to get sorted out.

"The heritage-listed clock last flashed from the silos in 2009 when the Nylex Plastics company went into liquidation."[1]

"The clock was shut down seven years ago due to the Nylex company being placed into receivership. It’s remained off and dormant ever since."[2]

—Largoplazo (talk) 12:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

OK, I've fixed things up myself. I moved the article to "Nylex Plastics" and changed its status to defunct. Largoplazo (talk) 13:03, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Nylex *is* still operating

Nylex is not a defunct company.

I bought a Nylex Garden hose (which Nylex have made for decades) about 6 months ago. So it appears the company survived receivership, though it's not as diversified as it was. The company was purchased by US parent AMES in 2014, however it is still operating and making plastic garden hose and other products. You can buy their products widely in Australia, and they are probably the most well known brand for garden hose. See here. They were sponsoring cricket teams in 2016, not sure if they still do now.

I've updated the article and added references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathlibrarian (talk • contribs) 1 January 2022 (UTC)

@Deathlibrarian: You appear not to have gotten the full gist of my reports above. In my very first sentence, I wrote that the Nylex whose website is https://www.nylex.com.au sells (present tense) hoses and other gardening supplies. That website says the company was founded in 1920, a date that's repeated in the source that you just supplied, https://au.ames.com/nylex/.

I wasn't disagreeing that that company, the gardening supply company, continues to thrive. I was saying that it's a different company from the one that this article was, in the main, describing: a plastics company founded in 1947. That company appears to be defunct. The article has been confusing the two companies. Largoplazo (talk) 18:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

LargoplazoI saw that, sorry perhaps should of addressed it. They are 100% the same company. There is only one Nylex company in Australia - the plastics company made plastic garden hose and other plastic items, and did so for decades. When Nylex went broke it was trying to sell off its constituent businesses, so I assume they retained the garden hose business, which I think was their core business. You'll notice, all instances of Nylex refer to the famous Nylex Clock Neon sign in Melbourne that is famous enough that it has its own Wikipedia page. You can see the current Nylex web page, that sells garden hose, actually shows the Nylex plastic neon sign on its' about page Deathlibrarian (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

@Deathlibrarian: If it was founded in 1920, what was founded in 1947? Largoplazo (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

I've just done a bunch of research on Nylex using Factiva. The company went into recivership and at the time had 8 sections, one of those was the Nylex garden products. The was divested and still uses the Nylex branding - it is still operating today, and it even sponsors sports teams as "Nylex". Anyway, have a look at the info I've added to the article, it may make the situation clearer. I'll try to see what I can find about the 1947/1920 disparity, but you can see from the references, its all the historical Australian Nylex company, which made plastics including garden products. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:30, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Nylex was a *brand name* used by John Derham with his Australian Moulding Corporation, which was founded in 1927.The Australian Moulding corporation's name was changed to Nylex in 1947. I think that explains the discrepancy.Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Changes to article

Ok, I've improved the article, added a lot to the history section, split it up into various sections. I've done a bit of research on the changes to the corporate structure, both in its founding era, developement and then it decline to its current status as jsut making hoses. Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Recent revert

The source is here @Largoplazo: and in the other refs about the early years the sourcing of the equipment by Derhan is seen to be key. Ma Dalley had just created the scrap yard where the equipment to found this company was founded. Three years before there was no yard. There was no second hand plastic moulding equipment (it was new tech at that time). Repurposing old stuff and Derham finding it was important. The scrap yard was key to creating this company (and another business). Not my opinion but that of the source, and thats the reason. It could have been stated more clearly and with a source - but here it is. Victuallers (talk) 22:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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