Talk:Occupation of Gori
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According to the media there is no "local militia, army withrew" on Georgia side in Gori. To put this together with 58th Army elements meaning confrontation.220.127.116.11 (talk) 00:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Since Captain Oblivious hasn't come to destroy this talk page yet, I'd like to point out that statements like "...the situation turned ugly" are entirely subjective and have no place in a Wikipedia article. It does not matter that a news source is quoted. Just because a reporter has a subjective opinion does not mean that subjective opinion warrants publication in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
This wasn't really a conflict, since there was no real fighting (if there was, as the Al-Jazeera correspondent states, then this can probably be renamed into Battle of Gori). The problem is that occupation of Gori can't be the result of the occupation of Gori, so, unless some sort of battle is included, the occupation should be removed from the "result" section of the infobox. --Illythr (talk) 21:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Rather than renaming, how about merging into 2008 South Ossetia war? Does this really need its own article? —KCinDC (talk) 18:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Of course, it does. The occupation of Gori is a major event in the war and it was the Russian invasion of Georgian territories outside South Ossetia, and Gori in particular, that draw the first significant international reaction.--KoberTalk 18:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd say this deserves its own article, it is notable enough. As to the result I agree, it can't be the Russian occupation of Gori - as the Russians withdrew from Gori in the end. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 20:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it technically was a military occupation - for the 10 days it lasted... One problem with this whole war is a large redundance of information that is still being created in all these articles (why, I just copied a para from here to Gori myself). The syncing of data and elimination of this redundancy is going to cause some headaches in the future... --Illythr (talk) 20:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
There was much more that took place there
I don't know where and how else I could add this little piece of information.
On 12 August, at around 3.30 pm, my family (i.e. my georgian wife, 2 little children and I) passed Gori from our way from Batumi to Tbilisi. When we had almost reached the so called "Gorgian highway" north of Gori, we were shot out of a group of about 15 people. My wife could make out one shooter in black shorts, but there must have been two telling from the size of the bullets. (Probably one classic AK-47, the other a AK-74? with hunting ammunition that caused severe injuries.) One member of the group was a lady in red with a small child on her arms. All were civilians as far as we could see. Luckily, we barely survived. If you need proof to our story, please let me know: htappe [at] gmx point de.
I think the bombing info should be covered by an another article, like Cluster bomb use in Georgia (villages were also bombed, also Georgia said it used cluster shells while shelling Roki tunnel exit). --Putinjugend (talk) 08:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. There is 2008 South Ossetia war and Humanitarian impact of the 2008 South Ossetia war which between them should cover everything not in this article. No need to create yet another subarticle. --Xeeron (talk) 15:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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