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I'd suggest merging this page into the various subpages of Timeline of United States history. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the timeline presented here should be merged. The rest should stay and be expanded: history of individual states and territories, named eras, etc.

Any objections to this? —Mrwojo (talk) 06:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good plan. I've been expanding the By subject section. The Transhumanist 12:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Any help would of course be appreciated. The Transhumanist 12:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Placed some, and sorted the list. The Transhumanist 12:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Placed 4 more. Only a dozen left. The Transhumanist 13:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Placed 6 more. Amethyst1234 (talk) 20:22, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Took care of remaining items, redlinked an item that ought to exist, and added a few more unlisted items I discovered in the process. Zell Faze (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move

@Michael7604, while I appreciate consistency, I'm not sure it + avoiding what is the least obtrusive form of demonym (i.e. one with identical spelling) is worth the extra clunkiness of the new title? Remsense诉 04:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it would set a precedent for creating historical outlines of other countries (at the moment United States is the only country with a historical outline article). Consider this: the demonym for both Democratic Republic of the Congo and Republic of the Congo is "Congolese". The article title Outline of Congolese history is ambiguous; it would be better to use Outline of the history of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Outline of the history of the Republic of the Congo. The clunkiness kinda irks me, but still this is the standard formatting of article titles, e.g. it's List of presidents of the United States, not List of United States presidents. Michael7604 (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's also the articles Outline of the history of the British Isles and Outline of the history of Los Angeles. Michael7604 (talk) 05:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, and I think each of those examples are fine the way they are; however, it's worth mentioning that, save the LA example, they each have ambiguities that I don't think are present in simply "United States history". Remsense诉 05:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good discussion. As far as naming conventions go, the standard is to use the most common name for the subject. So, let's check...

Googling the subject names in the competing titles, "United States history" got 7,120,000 results, while "History of the United States" clocked in at 856,000,000 results. "History of the United States" appears to be the more common name for the subject, by far.

It is also the name of the corresponding article: "History of the United States". They're a matching set!

I hope these observations help.

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does the Outline need its own timeline?

This Outline includes a list of Timelines, then after that section it has its own massive timeline. Shouldn't the items on this timeline be merged into their subordinate timeline articles? This would reduce the unnecessary length of this outline article, be more categorically organized, and bring the following sections much closer to the top. Baltarstar (talk) 16:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]