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allmusic guide has one reference to Paul Winter that he played sac in the 60's

Name Search Results for: PAUL WINTER

This signifies no musical importance. GBYork 20:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC) This user was found to be a sock of Mattisse[reply]

What is a "sac"? Is it sort of like a bagpipe? Paul Winter plays the soprano saxophone. Probably he's rarely credited as Paul Winter, but instead with his group called "Paul Winter Consort," with which he has performed since at least the late 1960s. He is definitely not of "no musical importance," as in addition to being a well regarded soprano saxophonist he has released about 30 albums, toured the world, performed annual high-profile concerts in New York's Cathedral of St. John the Divine which are aired on National Public Radio each winter, and been the subject of a documentary film performing in the Grand Canyon. Let's address specifics once we know something rather than making pronouncements after visiting one website (and not even knowing enough to explore the "Paul Winter Consort" section of the All-Music Guide). Badagnani 17:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the link to Paul Winter's AMG page in the External links at the end of the entry. He has plenty of credits, both as himself and as the Consort. "No musical importance" - what a thing to say about a musician who helped bring bossa nova to the U.S., was a vital early exponent of both world music and new age, made a famous album produced by George Martin, and provided a launching pad for the jazz group Oregon (which is still active 35 years later). Justinbb 19:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...and is a 4-time Grammy winner. I'd say notable. Cricket02 18:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One of the 1960's records he is listed as playing on is Dionne Warwick's version of Walk on by 22yearswothanks (talk) 15:18, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

broken links

Several Wikipedia articles for albums are linked to generic pages such as Icarus and Wolf Eyes. There are also errors in writing credits for some songs such as Keith Emerson writing on Common Ground. Trilogy is not the same as the ELP song. I don't have the album handy to make accurate corrections.22yearswothanks (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What about Paul Winter Orchestra?

I heard Paul Winter play with a large band at University of California at Santa Cruz, around 1967. They seemed to emphasize oddball time signatures, modal melodies and international musical styles. They killed! I believe this group was called the Paul Winter Orchestra, though I am not certain. As far as I can tell, none of this music made it to CDs. Was some released on vinyl? I'd like to know. If anyone has more information, I'd like to see it added to this article.108.211.84.128 (talk) 01:40, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral Point of View/Promotion.

This article is very effusive, and reads like promotional material created by the artist. I'd say that most adjectives need to be changed. See: NPV: Describing asthetic opinion, Not a means of promotion TChapProctor (talk) 01:58, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I re-wrote the "Paul Winter Sextet" paragraph, which seemed like the low hanging fruit. I also re-wrote the opening paragraph of the "Biography" section, though it might just need to be removed all together, as it just reads like PR materials with the adjectives removed now. TChapProctor (talk) 02:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the edit history, it seems like the NPOV violations were all added in a virtual complete re-write of this article by an IP user who has no other edit history. I'm assuming that this is a Paul Winter fan who is ignorant of NPOV and verifying sources. It's tempting to just revert to the previous text, as that content was well sourced and maintained a NPOV. However, that would mean eliminating almost all of the content. Not sure what the best path is. TChapProctor (talk) 22:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The location of the IP address that wrote the content of this article that violates NPV is in the area where Winter lives. This seems like a likely conflict of interest and possible self-promotion. TChapProctor (talk) 23:14, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Most of this content looks like its a direct copy from Winter's website. I'm thinking I should just remove all the content that is copied from there. TChapProctor (talk) 01:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I finally got around to removing all the content copied from Winter's website. If someone wants to re-write well cited content from a neutral point of view, all the old content can be found on Winter's website's about page and his page advertising his workshops. TChapProctor (talk) 18:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for mentioning this. You were right. Much of it or all of it was copied and pasted from his web site and deserved to be changed or deleted. An official site is OK to use as a source, but only about himself, not verbatim, and not to the degree that the article becomes promotional.
–Vmavanti (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy

No news about the Grammy he won?!?!? https://www.grammy.com/grammys/artists/paul-winter/15700 https://www.grammy.com/grammys/artists/paul-winter-consort/8070 --Simoneschiaffino (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]