Talk:Pherecydes of Syros

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The two Pherecydeses[edit]

There are two different Pherecydes in ancient Greece, this page seems to present a person which is a mixture of both ... this need to be fixed . (Note to myself.) Nixdorf 14:35, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

No point. Tale of two Pherekydeses originates from Diogenes Laertius, and he cannot decide if there is one or two, or which deeds belong to which one. Just mention the possible ambiguity in the article, that should be enough for anybody.

If Diogenes didn't know, then it's highly improbable that we'll ever know either... :-/ OK will do this. Nixdorf 12:26, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

According to nordisk familjebok the two Pherecydes's are:

  • Pherecydes of Syros, the philosopher, associated with Pythagoras and autor of "On the nature of the Gods"
  • Pherecydes of Leros (from the island of Leros close to Miletus) the author of Fragmenta Historium Graecorum

Nixdorf 12:48, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This has been resolved by the new, excellent entry for Pherecydes of Leros. Nixdorf 08:11, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Also, article Pentagram talks about Pherekydes's book as Pentamychos (with its conclusions in Pythagorean mystics); while this seems to have a sound reasoning behind it, as Pherekydes is said to have teached Pythagoras, at least 1911 Britannica says Pentamychos is probably misreading (but it is widespread in scholarship). That's another Pherekydean mystery, but it could be mentioned in the article - it is confusing if you see a reference and you don't know it's the same book.

Well, the 1911 Britannica is outdated. Modern scholars almost all agree that Pentemychos is the correct title. In particular, Hermann S. Schibli, considered the most acclaimed scholar on Pherecydesa and author of the only scholarly book wholly devoted to Pherecydes, believes the title was Pentemychos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by August (talkcontribs) 10:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Raising standards[edit]

Attempted to increase the profile of this important yet little known figure by adding content and also by copying the layout of pages considered as being of a high standard. However I am no expert - I had never heard of Pherecydes until a couple of days ago, nor do I have much experience of editing wikipedia articles. My efforts probably require wiki-templates for "citations needed", "more work needed", and/or "tidy up required" or similar notifications. I have never used such templates before, and ran out of time trying to find them.--Davidc 18:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Discovered {{attention}} template which I have added. I feel that the claims for Pherecydes' astronomical work requires primary sources. His importance for me is his position bridging traditional mythology and rational philosophy. Sadly history appears to have pigeon-holed him as a writer on mythology, rather than a philosopher.--Davidc 21:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Influenced by?[edit]

The "Influenced By" section says "Zedekiah"....who is this? Cornelius (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Presumably Zedekiah, last king of Judah, was meant. I've removed it, and put in Hesiod instead, since he seems a more plausible influence. Pasicles (talk) 19:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)