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Healy

Moved to WPT:SHIPS Polar class icebreaker

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: moved to WPT:SHIPS Polar class icebreaker

The Healy should be removed from this article since it is not part of the Polar class it is just a USCG Ice Breaker of which there is two effective classes the Polar Class and the Healy Class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbonnie (talk • contribs) 02:29, 15 November 2005‎ (UTC)[reply]

Agreed as even the USCG only refers to Polar Star and Polar Sea when talking about the Polar class icebreakers. In addition, we should disambiguate for e.g. the new Canadian icebreaker, which is also referred to as the "Polar class" icebreaker, and perhaps mention the IMO Polar Class rules as well, as in the future there will be a lot of ships with a "polar class"... Tupsumato (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Healy is a medium icebreaker, not a heavy icebreaker (atleast according to Popular Mechanics a couple of months ago) so should be removed. This article needs to be remodeled into a standard ship class article. An overview article of all all-year-round USCG polar icebreakers ("heavy" and "medium" icebreakers) can be created, but it should not be in this class article. (Canadian CG also calls its "heavy" and "medium", instead of using PC ratings (and "light", but those aren't year round polar capable) ) ... according to PopMech, Canada has 6 polar-capable icebreakers and USA 2 (Healy and Polar Star) -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 13:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the classification of icebreakers, one should emphasize that calling some icebreakers "heavy" or "medium" is not an universal classification. However, I agree with the removal of Healy from this article, as per my previous post. Perhaps we should move this page to USCG Polar class icebreaker and turn Polar class icebreaker into a disambiguation page for USCG and CCG "Polar class" icebreakers as well as the IACS Polar Class? Tupsumato (talk) 14:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That would be acceptable for me. -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, as per this discussion, the correct title would be USCG Polar-class icebreaker which, again, is a redirect to this page. Tupsumato (talk) 21:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like your suggestion. Make the current page USCG Polar-class icebreaker as a class page. Healy is in a class by itself, but with the new emphasis on polar operations, if the Coast Guard could get funding for additional ships, there would probably be more follow on ships in the class. Budget doesn't look good now, though. Cuprum17 (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO, Healy does not belong to any specific class, so there's no need for a class article in addition to USCGC Healy (WAGB-20). Tupsumato (talk) 06:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let's continue the discussion at the project talk page as per suggested by Trappist the monk. Tupsumato (talk) 06:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...and the discussion at the project page was closed and archived. So, what shall we do? Tupsumato (talk) 17:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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