Talk:President of Poland
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Explanation of edit (4 october 2006): removed "orange rocks forever!" from bottom of page - appears to be graffiti.
Chiefs of state, not presidents
Many listed people on this page were never in fact presidents of Poland. Polish text books present with that title only Gabriel Narutowicz, Stanisław Wojciechowski, Ignacy Mościcki in the time between World War I and World War II and after ther collapse of People's Republic of Poland Lech Walesa and Aleksander Kwasniewski. One of the so called presidents listed on this page is Jozef Pilsudski. He was the Marshal of the Polish Army and a very powerful and respected man. Yet, he did not want to be a president when he was offered this function, because he saw it as too limited.
Bronislaw Komorowski is still Marshall of the Sejm and not a President. He holds Presidential powers though for the next 60 days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 15:31, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I was startled when I saw the Lech Wałęsa article and it said "2nd President of Poland", as growing up I'd always learned that Stanisław Wojciechowski was the second President of Poland, and that he was removed by Józef Piłsudski in 1926. When I clicked on "2nd President of Poland" it brought me to this article which doesn't mention the earlier presidents at all. So I quickly added a hatnote. With investigation I determined that due to edits of an IP editor 188.8.131.52 in June of 2014, these earlier presidents had been removed from this article without any discussion here. It seems to me that while the First Polish Republic (the Commonwealth) did not have presidents, but that since the Second Polish Republic did, that this article should be reasonably divided between those for the Second Republic and those of the Third. Before I restore those of the Second Republic, I thought that I'd open this up for discussion. The other option is a redirect to List of heads of state of Poland with any information such as presidential authority under the Third Republic incorporated in the, linked from List-of-heads-of-state article, Politics of Poland. --Bejnar (talk) 18:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- The status of Bolesław Bierut ought to be discussed. Under the provisional governments following World War II including the temporary Constitution of 1947, and until 1952, the name of the Polish state was simply Rzeczpospolita Polska (the Republic of Poland). It was not until the new constitution of 1952 that the name changed to "People's Republic of Poland". Politics aside, as president of the Republic from 5 February 1947 until 20 November 1952, should he be included as one of the "Presidents of Poland"? Should he have his own section or be the last of the Second Republic? --Bejnar (talk) 19:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- Of course a third option is to keep this article, but not relist presidents of Poland here, but simply refer to the List of heads of state of Poland. Now that I think about it, that may be the best solution. Comments? --Bejnar (talk) 19:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- Good catch. Of couse Narutowicz was the first president. This info was deleted by anon here. I fully support restoring the Second Polish Republic presidents list. I think Bierut should be listed here, with note explaining the specifics here. Anon also added Jaruzelski to the list, I think it's fair to keep him. Finally, anon changed the "Previous office" section to "Notes"; I think we should restore the "Previous office" while keeping the notes. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:46, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- The list is just fine at List of heads of state of Poland, there doesn't seem to be much point in maintaining two identical lists. The previous offices where appropriate can be included in the Notes field at List of heads of state of Poland#Republic of Poland (1989–Present). But I have added a "History" section that should help readers. It could do with a couple more citations. --Bejnar (talk) 22:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I think we ought to look towards what the Polish government is considering who were the Presidents of Poland => http://www.prezydent.pl/prezydent/historia-prezydentury/ Ajh1492 (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)