Talk:Przeworsk culture

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Przework culture was definitely NOT Germanic[edit]

The arcticle contains errors claiming wrong ethnic background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.158.196.106 (talk) 08:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

On the bearers of the Przeworsk Culture according to written and archaeological sources

by Marek Oledzki (Lodz)

According to the written sources of the early Roman Iron Age (Strabo, Tacitus, Ptolemaios, Cassius Dio) most areas of the Przeworsk Culture were settled by the people of the Lugians or - as some scientists put it - by the association of the Lugians tribes (Tac., Germ. 43). In the light of recent research work, its German ethnic character is undoubted, although in this connection some authors underline also its Celtic component. At the beginning of the Roman Iron Age this Latène component was assimilated by the Przeworsk Culture; since then, there is certainly no doubt that the Lugians despite, the Celtic sound of their name, have a German character. At the turn from the early to the late Roman Iron Age, the two tribes formerly named the Lugians are now referred to by the same name, the Vandals. As the sources clearly show, the identity of the Lugians and the Vandals is proven by the identity of the territories in which they appeared. This allows us to state that the extension of the Przeworsk Culture is the same as the settlement area of the Vandals, in particular, the northern, the eastern and the southern borders. The exception of the western border is explainable, as according to the written sources the Burgunds and the Siligans were located in the western area of the Przeworsk Culture and they, although closely related, can not be equated with the Vandals.

http://www.geschichte.hu-berlin.de/bereiche/ufg/heft40_1_en.html#oledzki

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The final phase of the Przeworsk Culture

by Magdalena Maczynska (Lódz)

In the 4th century and the first half of the 5th century - in the stages C3-D - the Przeworsk Culture, which lasted in south and central Poland for nearly 500 years, went through a period of strong economic development. The region was relatively densely populated; however, the majority of settlements - nearly exclusively ceramics were found on the sites can not be dated more precisely than into the stages C2-D. The material from settlements is concentrated in Silesia and Minor Poland. In comparison to the earlier phases there are more settlements in the west Carpathians. This relatively stable condition broke down at the turn of the 4th to the 5th centuries, that is in the final phase of the stage Dl.

From the first half of the 5th century within the area of the Przeworsk Culture sites with finds of a so-called nomadic character as well as settlements of the North Carpathian Group are known. In the second half of the 5th century this area provided little material. There is only a small concentration of finds in central Poland. In the Jurassic area north of Kraków it is worth mentioning late metal objects from caves and from a refuge on a limestone rock. It seems that remnants of the early German population sought refuge there. On the other hand, no traces have been observed of contacts with the Slavic population which from the late 5th century onwards successively occupied the virtually deserted area of the Przeworsk Culture.

http://www.geschichte.hu-berlin.de/bereiche/ufg/heft39_1_en.html (contributed by FourthAve)

The German site you quote does not call this culture Germanic, it calls the culture German. This is a worrying sign about the intentions of the authors.--Wiglaf 21:18, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

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Southern and central Poland was occupied by the Przeworsk Culture, which gained its name from the village of Przeworsk, situated in Lesser Poland (Maűopolska), where the first cemeteries typical of this culture were discovered. This culture emerged at the beginning of the second century bc and continued to thrive for several hundred years, right up until the Migration Period. The regions of Warmia and Mazuria (Mazury) were inhabited by representatives of the Western Balt Culture, which developed independently of its neighbours, and differed from them distinctly, bearing, however, a clear relationship to Baltic peoples. In contrast, during the first decades ad, an entirely new culture began to take shape in Pomerania. Archaeologists dubbed it the Wielbark Culture, after the site at Wielbark (currently Malbork-Wielbark), where the first cemetery of this culture was found. This area of Poland had previously been occupied by the Oksywie Culture, closely related to the Przeworsk Culture, but differing in many aspects from the subsequent Wielbark Culture.

Name[edit]

The article gives the impression that this culture is quite old. It's the title that interests me though. When did the term Pzeworsk culture first make its debut? I see that it's named after a town several hundred kilometers from the area designated on the article's map. Can anyone tell us the original author of the "name", and a date that it first appeared in some source? Thanks. Dr. Dan 03:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

From German wiki: Benannt ist die Kultur nach einem Brandgräberfeld bei Przeworsk in der Wojewodschaft Podkarpackie. --Lysytalk 22:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
And the date of the first publication of this work including the name "Przeworsk culture" was? Dr. Dan 01:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Lysy, when you have time, perhaps you can come up with the date of the work you referred to. Dr. Dan 16:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Read the Polish wiki. The name stems from Hadaczek (explorations in 1905), but was widely used only since the 1930s. Juro 18:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Gobbledegook in lead[edit]

The last sentence of the lead now reads "Assigns the Goths to the Przeworsk culture inland, but this culture was Vandalic with the Celtic culture in southern Poland was also influenced by the local Przeworsk culture[2]." (sic) Can someone work out what this is suppposed to mean, and if possible if it is correct? Johnbod (talk) 14:04, 9 December 2013 (UTC)