Talk:Punky Brewster/Archive 1

Debate: Gary Portnoy's official website

This is a debate on whether or not Gary Portnoy's (one of the writers of this show's theme song) official website should belong in the External Links section of this article. Since it has been removed and added back several times, this discussion is being created to hopefully avoid a revert war. Discuss and give reasons for your view. — CobraWiki ^{( jabber | stuff )} 08:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd say if it has a link to the theme, then yes. Because then it's actually relevant. If not, then it can be on his own page.

Bouncehoper 04:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

No, the link does not belong in this article. The only related information I found there was a passing mention of his having composed the PB theme. The link adds nothing to the information about Punky Brewster found in this article. - Cafemusique 16:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with both prior posters, but mostly with Cafemusique. If Gary Portnoy had the theme available on his website, then there could be a link directly to the theme on his site. But I couldn't find it there, although he has both the themes from Cheers and Mr. Belvedere (which he also did). Without the theme, he's too peripheral to the show to be linked from this article. - AyaK 19:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Doesnt the link state he has sung other theme songs? If so the link should stay. Ps, there is a whole wiki out there with many flaws. Stop having a fit over a nothing issue.

Henry was a widower...

I made a minor change in the article. Henry was actually more a widower than a bachelor, as was explained in early episodes (he had lost his wife many years prior), which is why he let almost nobody into his life for a long time (putting up a "wall" to conceal his grief and protect himself from future loss), until Punky came along unexpectedly. -J

I took out vandalism

I took out the obvious vandalism- "because they didn't love her they thought she was very fat and she smelled very bad !!." --70.157.42.18 (talk) 00:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You. Fighting for Justice (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Reference in Gossip Girl?

In the 1st season finale of Gossip Girl, Leighton Meester's character, Blair Waldorf, refers to Vanessa as Punky Brewster. Is it worthy enough to be added to the reference section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.68.168 (talk) 00:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

CARTOON?

how can this not be mentioned? that there was a cartoon based on this character! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.34.82.6 (talk) 19:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Punky Brewster (character)

Does anyone else think the Punky Brewster character deserves her own article? For An Angel (talk) 22:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

2021 Revival

Should content on the 2021 revival show just be added to this article, or should a new article be created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.175.201 (talk) 16:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

As that is a reboot series, scheduled to run on Peacock, some brief information about it should already be present here, but a new article should be created for the series itself. The reboot of Saved by the Bell, also on Peacock, is in a separate article (at Saved by the Bell (2020 TV series)), so I'm thinking the same for this reboot ... and with it keeping the name of the original, it needs to be distinguished similarly, Punky Brewster (2021 TV series). I recall there are times when a reboot didn't trigger a split to a new article, like Roseanne, but that was a different situation ... I'm thinking because the title character was a parent of a family in the original (but that's just my guess). Although, when Roseanne Barr got removed from the series after season 10, the series was retitled, and a new article was established for that. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

It's a revival and not a reboot. The two are not the same thing, even though "reboot" is often used (inaccurately) to describe revivals. For example Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) is clearly a reboot of Battlestar Galactica (1978 TV series), whereas Will & Grace when it returned in 2018 was a revival not a reboot (even though some publications incorrectly described it as one). Furthermore, both the "original" Will & Grace and its revival show are combined in one Wikipedia article, and are also combined in the List of Will & Grace episodes article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.175.201 (talk) 18:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Doctor Who is another notable example of where the original series and its revival are combined in the same Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.175.201 (talk) 19:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Followup

With the cancellation, more content from that page should be here rather than there, as with Twin Peaks (season 3) and Samurai Jack (season 5). Pumpoffed (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

What's making me scratch my head here is the single-season revivals being merged into the originals. Is this the normal convention? My only opposition to this then would be how different the original Punky Brewster is in age in comparison with the revival. We are going from her being a third-to-fifth (or sixth) grader to a mom (in her 40s) with three children. Definitely a lot of difference in age and maturity, and almost along the same line as with iCarly, except that got more than one season on the revival and the age difference of the main character(s) isn't quite as steep. In any case, I'd like to see other arguments both for and against. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:28, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@MPFitz1968: I think so. I remember Twin Peaks (season 3) was at Twin Peaks (2017 TV series) for a long time, and Yes, Prime Minister (2013 TV series) is at Yes, Prime Minister now too, both single season revivals. Pumpoffed (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

65.93.175.201 makes a good point above. Pumpoffed (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

WP:NOTABILITY is something here too I think. There are seven references total on the page for the 2021 revival, around half of them reporting on the same news on the series the others are. To say it is not notable enough for its own page, and can be made a section of this one. Pumpoffed (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

That's not how it works – we go by (fortunately, or unfortunately) how WP:RSs refer to it. If no reliable sources call it "season 5", then the article cannot and should not be put at that title. If, OTOH, most sources do refer to it as "season 5" then it gets moved there. Most sources called the Twin Peaks and X-Files revivals "season [whatever]". But that's not true of all revivals – other revivals are treated as different series – e.g. Saved by the Bell (2020 TV series)... Bottom line: This is a "controversial" move request, and should be reverted, and then discussed, with a WP:Requested move discussion possibly necessary. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Update to mention that the user making the edits to merge the 2021 season content into this article, and prompting this follow-up, has been blocked as a sock of a banned/blocked user. See their user page for more. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

• Checkuser note Note that Pumpoffed has been blocked as a  Confirmed sock.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:28, 1 June 2022 (UTC)