Talk:Raila Odinga

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Bad citation #4[edit]

This was an empty citation and tagged onto several odd statements in the article. I changed them to citation-needed and did a web search but couldn't find any reliable sources for them. If someone finds the original source, whatever it was, feel free to plug it back in... Armrha (talk) 06:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

IRI released Exit poll data[edit]

The International Republican Institute released the exit poll mentioned in the article in August 2008. Please update. See link below for details. http://www.iri.org/africa/kenya/2008-08-14-kenya.asp Villager87 (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Obama Did Not Camapaign for Odinga[edit]

Any video "proof" does not show Obama campaigning for Odinga. What it does show is that Obama spoke in front of Odinga. But the subject matter of which Obama spoke about was not a campaign endorsement for Odinga. He was talking about the safety of AIDS/HIV testing.

For more information, for more on this visit the following link: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html --Spikeleefan (talk) 20:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a difference between campaigning for someone, and endorsing them. Obama did campaign for Odinga, that's why there is photo and video of them together. He didn't endorse him, nobody is arguing he did. --Erroneuz1 (talk) 06:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Please read the whole paragraph, especially the section #Dispute filed. Personal opinions are no valid sources. --R.Schuster (talk) 07:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
And all the photos I linked? Did you check that out? --Erroneuz1 (talk) 18:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I took the trouble to read *all* the discussion before reverting the Obama fluff. This puff piece should come out of the article. Wizzy 09:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Obama Support[edit]

I reverted this post because the user has valid sources listed. Unless you can prove the sources are false you should not delete posts without discussion. That is per Wikipedia rules. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 04:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverting again because users are removing sourced material and not discussing it. User:Nsaa also opened discussion of this fact with users continuing to remove without discussion. DISCUSS BEFORE DELETING WHY THE SOURCES ARE NOT VALID. No one is saying he campaigned merely that Obama spoke in support of Odinga. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 20:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Removed two sources that are in questions by other users. One a Youtube video and the other a reported editorial even though it doesnt state so on the source which is the rule of thumb for journalists. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 21:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Odinga and Obama Support AIDS Awareness[edit]

Please stop deleting this information. The two sources that were in question have been replaced with CBS and Foxnews sources. There are now 3 valid sources CBS, Foxnews and API. Deleting a post without discussion is considered vandelism and will be reported. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

You have not provided a single reliable source for this claim so, per WP:BLP it must be immediately removed. Both the CBS and Fox News "sources" that you added were dead links. And API is just an opinion blog, again not at all a reliable source. As for discussion, until this material is sourced there isn't anything to discuss (if it were reliable sourced, we could discuss whether it is relevant to the biography of Odinga, but absent any sources there is no point). --Loonymonkey (talk) 01:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
The links are not dead I just checked again and they work. API is a large News Organization in Africa and it is not an opinion page. Journalist will state that the page is an editorial at the top of an article when it is an opinion/editorial. Your claims are false. All my links work and you are in the process of vandalizing this page by making wild accusations of broken links and unreliable sources. Nothing you are saying is true and I have reported you again to have an admin involved. Please also stop vandalizing my discussion page by adding 3RR warnings when you are the one that broke the rule. You are not an admin. I added the post which is 1R, you came along and deleted it and that is 2R and I reverted it back and that is 3R. You deleted it again and that is 4R. You broke the 3RR not me. I will also request arbitration for this edit. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 08:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
You also did not say anything about the API source earlier. Your complaint was about the YouTube and SunTimes source earlier. I removed those two and added two others. So why are you just now complaining about the API source when earlier it was not a problem with you? You seem to not want this information on here at all even though it has been proven with the sources. --24.96.147.87 (talk) 08:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
The CBS News article does not even mention Odinga. It says :- Police held back the crowds and local politicians called for calm as Obama visited the AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis clinic run by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.. The only reason for including this puff piece is to 'associate' Odinga with Obama. The CBS reference does not give it justification. Wizzy 09:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
The cited Fox News and CBS News articles do not mention Odinga, and the API is not a reliable source (they are most famous for claiming that they will release the nonexistent "Whitey" tape within a few days, something they have been claiming for months now). Even if you had a reliable source, this story does not deserve its own section. Xaoiv (talk) 08:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Subject's short name[edit]

This article sometimes refers to him as "Raila" and other times as "Odinga" - we need to settle on one but which is best? Timrollpickering (talk) 21:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Homophobe[edit]

According to http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/2010/11/101129_kenya_odinga_gay.shtml Mr. Raila Odinga is a homophobe who wants to ban all gay activity and imprison all gay men and women. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.196.119.66 (talk) 16:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)