Talk:Rainbow flag (LGBT movement)

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October 2010[edit]

The flag designer may have been inspired by the use of rainbows in the movie "Rocky Horror Picture Show" (1975). Particularly, there is a pattern on tank in lab scene, and a rainbow is seen in the end scene.99.230.246.99 (talk) 04:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes! I thought the same given the tank is used to create a gay playmate and the movie precedes the flag by a few years... Efficacious (talk) 07:28, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2012[edit]

This flag was already used by the incas. See the article about inca flag. 169.252.4.21 (talk) 08:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

March 2008[edit]

wasn't the Pride Flag adopted by Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition in the 80s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.50.216 (talk) 16:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Linking names[edit]

Let's not put links in topic terms, okay? DeanaG (talk) 00:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Propose merge from Pride family flag[edit]

Pls see discussion thread at Talk:Pride family flag.
User0529 (talk) 02:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

rainbow flag, wrong meaning[edit]

I understood that the origins of the rainbow flag came from the colours associated with homosexuality over the years. For instance emerald green was the 'gay' colour in Victorian times, Pink in Nazi Germany, Lavender in the US etc etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.242.44 (talk) 10:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Nope. 82.9.103.55 (talk) 21:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Carleton GSC[edit]

Currently reference four is a link to an unsigned page from Carleton's Gender and Sexuality Center.[1] The page claims its source as the "Alyson Almanac" - I'm not certain that this book has an author either. All we have is a note at the bottom, "Gender and Sexuality Center pages maintained by Kaaren M. Williamsen", but Williamsen doesn't appear to have any particular expertise,[2] and the GSC isn't an academic department.[3] The claim that Baker got the idea from a "World Peace flag" is a substantial one, and I don't see that this reference meets Wikipedia's standards. Anyone got a better reference?24.22.141.252 (talk) 21:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Other rainbow flags[edit]

Just a reminder to everybody that this page is specifically about the rainbow flag as used by the LGBT movement. Other rainbow flags (e.g. the flag of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, which I've just removed from this page) should go in Rainbow flag. —Spudtater (talkcontribs) 13:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

ACLU Protects Anti-Gay Use of Rainbow[edit]

This should be mentioned in article: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57571382/conn-school-relents-allows-anti-gay-t-shirt/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.87.223 (talk) 17:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Swedish high jumper Emma Green-Tregaro told to remove rainbow nail polish[edit]

MOSCOW (Reuters) By Justin Palmer- Swedish high jumper Emma Green-Tregaro, who painted her fingernails in the colors of the rainbow flag in support of Russia's gay community, has been told not to repeat the gesture in Saturday's world championship final. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.180.198.38 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

EIA Color Code[edit]

Is the bit talking about EIA Color Code (resistor colours) really relevant? Surely that's just generic "rainbow colours" rather than anything specifically to do with the LGBT Rainbow flag? 86.6.157.145 (talk) 12:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

No, sounds like bullshit to me as well. Removing it. (It would only be plausible if there were non-spectral colors included in the rainbow flag, as with the resistor color coding.) -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 03:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

The Detective (1968)[edit]

The Frank Sinatra film The Detective (1968) as well as being the prequel to Die Hard, was a pioneering film dealing largely with homosexuality. In the film there is a ledger of names called the Rainbow... so called because of the diversity of people it represented. It would be strange if the rainbow flag was not connected in some way to either this film or the 1966 book on which it was based. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.225.11.9 (talk) 22:23, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Against Over the Rainbow[edit]

  • Gilbert Baker is still waving the flag By Cory Stottlemyer, reporter, 365gay.com, 06.29.2009 4:27pm EDT: Baker put to rest rumors that he created a rainbow flag in honor of Judy Garland’s “Somewhere over the Rainbow” from the Wizard of Oz. / “I came from the Streisand generation. She was all about not conforming and not being a victim,” Gilbert explained, the opposite of what Garland stood for. “She was a tragic woman who rose from her abuse,” Gilbert said about Garland, something he said the gay movement related to during the Stonewall Movement. His generation was all about fighting the system and not being persecuted, like Streisand. / “It was all about ‘She’s a Rainbow’ by the Stones, not ‘Over the Rainbow,’” added in Baker with a laugh.

The connection comes later. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 19:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

rededign of the rainbow flag[edit]

symbolism of rainbow is not appropriate for a marginalized group. suggest splitting LGBT into gay groups and lesbian /femme groups. maybe use existing bear flag for gay groups rather than the femme rainbow flags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.55.34.248 (talk) 02:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Upside down rainbow flag is not a thing[edit]

I suspect that the recent edit adding a sentence about how the flag is meant to be flown upside down is attempted whitewashing of Donald Trump’s mistake during a rally.

Etalli (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016[edit]

This flag is very similar to the Flag of Cusco.

Chackerian (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

It is indeed similar to the seven-stripe version. Rainbow flags in general are discussed in the Rainbow flag article. —Ringbang (talk) 21:38, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

The 1990s version[edit]

The flag was rather different during the 90s (in the US). The six colors were red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple. The blue and purple were quite different from the bottom two colors today. They were rather dark and very similar to each other. I have lots of memorabilia from the 90s with these distinctly different colors on them. The gay press and, I believe, contemporary scholarship both spoke pretty consistently of blue and purple stripes. I can't be the only person to recall this, which should be reflected in the article. I have no idea how that or the subsequent change came to be, but it would be good to hunt down the answer and include it in the article also. Antinoos69 (talk) 10:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The "new" variant[edit]

Not trying to start anything, but the "proposed variant" that was added supposedly against Trump's policies seems to come out of nowhere. This seems to be a random thing that some Tumblr user has made up. I can't find any sources for it and have never personally heard about it before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.252.133.70 (talk) 19:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

There are more things in heaven and hell … . Give it some time. It's quite fascinating. Antinoos69 (talk) 13:54, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
I deleted it. It isn't backed by reliable sources, or (as far as I can tell) substantiated in any way. —Ringbang (talk) 14:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

The meanings of the original flag colours[edit]

Secondary sources contradict each other on the meanings that Gilbert assigned to some of the colors; especially green, turquoise, and indigo. However, in every direct quote and interview with Gilbert that I found, he says that green is nature, turquoise is magic, and indigo (or blue) is serenity. In a video piece published by NBC Out in June 2016, he says that turquoise represents "art and magic"; this is now reflected in the flag diagram.

Many secondary sources say that turquoise symbolises art, and indigo harmony; some hedge their bets and report both. A few sources report the meaning of green to be "serenity with nature". Some sources make other claims, but these are the most common. I have yet to find a primary source that corroborates these alternate meanings. —Ringbang (talk) 00:34, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Black/brown variant[edit]

A new variant of the flag now features black and brown stripes.(link) Has anyone else noticed that this has been done in such a way as to make this exactly match the resistor color code? The only color left to add is then white, and then -- poetically -- we can add silver and gold to indicate tolerance. -- The Anome (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)