Talk:Religious views of Adolf Hitler

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problematic citation[edit]

His regime did not publicly advocate for state atheism, but it did seek to reduce the influence of Christianity on society. Hitler himself was reluctant to make public attacks on the Church for political reasons, despite the urgings of Nazis like Bormann. Although he was skeptical of religion,[11][12]

I have checked the sources on this and it appears that The person who made this edit has engaged a synthesis between two sources. The result is that the sentence is not true to either source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:59, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

The phrase "His regime did not publicly advocate for state atheism" seems deliberately misleading to me, since the Nazis ruthlessly suppressed atheist and freethinker organizations starting in early 1933, and later that year Hitler claimed in a speech that he had "stamped [atheism] out". Howard Landman (talk) 06:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Relevance of Kirchenkampf[edit]

Is Kirchenkampf relevant to:

, but in the pursuit and maintenance of power was prepared to delay clashes with the churches out of political considerations.

Italics are where I think it could go. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 21:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


Clearly some christian got ahold of this article. quite a bit of it is speculation and quite a lot of it is flat out wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6001:F203:4B00:A493:4F77:D869:6B31 (talk) 23:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

And what professionally published mainstream academic sources are you basing your (unspecified) claims on? Ian.thomson (talk) 23:43, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Goebbels Excommunicated?[edit]

The lead paragraph states that Hitler, unlike Goebbels, was never excommunicated. However, was Goebbels in fact excommunicated? A variety of sources say so, but David Kertzer’s “The Pope and Mussolini” says that he wasn’t. The authors that say he was don’t give a clear source. I don’t have time at the moment to chase this down, but will try to get to it if someone else doesn’t. Bytwerk (talk) 01:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

This cannot be used here, but you might find it interesting and it may help you in finding citable sources. General Ization Talk 01:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I looked at that. It begins with the statement that Goebbels was excommunicated, but doesn’t give a source. Bytwerk (talk) 01:33, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Shortening the lead[edit]

How are we going to be able to shorten the lead? This article is incredibly top heavy and I think this isn't news to anyone here. But since any removal of parts from the top gets revoked by admins suspecting "vandalism", I feel like in five years time, if anything, the lead will have become even longer than it already is.

Lots of what is in there is already part of the article anyway. Right in the very beginning it starts with his parents and the age he was confirmed and whatnot. I think that's already too detailed. (talk) 08:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)