Talk:Robert Zimmer

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Updates to professional leadership roles[edit]


I would like to request a small set of updates regarding President Zimmer's leadership roles, which I outline below but will not implement due to a conflict of interest. The updates are factual and represented without bias.

The second sentence of the introductory paragraph:

He is the 13th president of the University of Chicago[1] and serves as Chair of the Board for Argonne National Lab[2], Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory[3], and the Marine Biological Laboratory.[4]
  • Updated broken link to Fermi Research Alliance Organization Chart
  • Added affiliation to the Marine Biological Laboratory

The last sentence of the first paragraph of the section titled University of Chicago President:

During Zimmer's presidency, the University of Chicago expanded its presence locally with the launch of the Urban Education Institute[5] and globally with the launch of the Center in Beijing[6] and the Center in Delhi.[7]
  • Added affiliation to the Center in Delhi

--ncasslem (talk) 21:24, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

In reviewing the Conflict of Interest guidelines, I do not believe the above changes constitute a conflict of interest and have implemented them.
--ncasslem (talk) 16:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Is it relevant or notable to state whom a college president is dating?[edit]

There is a statement in a student newspaper account, which is based on "campus sources" cited in a blog ([1]) that Robert Zimmer is dating a particular University of Chicago professor. Is this statement relevant to a biography article? Evidently Zimmer is separated from his wife but whom he is dating doesn't appear relevant to me except possibly to disparage Zimmer and the professor, contrary to WP:BLP. A particular IP editor, apparently using several different IP addresses, insists on keeping this statement in this article, despite the objections of two other editors. --EPadmirateur (talk) 02:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Obviously not notable The subject themselves is hardly worthy of an article and to include who they are currently dating is absurd. I have deleted it. Martin Hogbin (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
  • However true, it is assumed private, it is not encyclopedic, and because of this merits removal. - Even if this information is true:(1) it is Wikipedia policy to assume this information be kept private until noted otherwise (i.e. personal statement by Zimmer, Zimmer and Ms.? attend a public gathering of some sort as a pair, etc...), and its the conservative assumption required by editors that the unnamed sources are unnamed for the reason that this information was to be kept private (see:WP:BOLP); (2) Its inclusion contributes nothing of encyclopedic value; (3) Its inclusion causes Wikipedia to be less encyclopedic and more like a tabloid. It clear that whom the president is dating does not merit inclusion. I also believe that though the university has publicly stated that he is dating, including in the article something to the effect of: "He is currently dating", still violates Wikipedia policy and, if nothing else, its philosophy. Because Zimmer is known for being college president, administrator, professor, and distinguished mathematician, anyone searching for information on Zimmer is searching for information in those capacities. It is this information that Wikipedia catalogs as an encyclopedia. Those searching for information on his marital relationship, dating life, preferences in music, food, and film, and all things personal/private should consult extraneous publications that profile Zimmer. Wikipedia does not serve as an aggregate for these sources, and these sources are easily found by searching for Zimmer on the internet. I think it is important to remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or tabloid, each of which has different criteria for the material it publishes and a specific function. I fully support the removal of Zimmer's private dating life from the article. Kapooz (talk) 04:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Not notable Neither are his hobbies nor his taste in music. Is this going to be updated constantly, with a table of former girlfriends? I think not. Ghostofnemo (talk) 11:21, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not a place for student gossip and Kapooz has clearly and convincingly explained why its inclusion is not appropriate. I think this RFC can be closed now Ajbpearce (talk) 12:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Funny. Kapooz: should we also delete the extramarital affairs listed on Heidegger's page? Or what about Jessica Simpson's page -- there are whole categories concerning her relationships... You "editors" have a lot of "work" to do. ;-)

Outdated Photo[edit]

Why the ancient photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.100.102 (talk) 21:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I have located an updated photo of him and added it to Wikimedia Commons here. I'd appreciate if someone updated the article with this photo in the infobox as I have a conflict of interest. Fallentomato (talk) 22:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. --EPadmirateur (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Expanding the article from a stub[edit]

In collaboration with a few colleagues at the University of Chicago, I have produced a draft of an expanded article on Robert Zimmer. We have made a good-faith effort to ensure that the article is written in a neutral tone of voice and supported by reliable secondary sources. As I have a conflict of interest, I will not implement any changes directly, but would greatly appreciate the assistance of other editors in reviewing the draft and implementing as much of it as possible. Please don't hesitate to contact me through my user page with questions or concerns. Fallentomato (talk) 15:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I have revised the draft based on helpful feedback from EPadmirateur. Fallentomato (talk) 23:30, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Excellent work. It was a pleasure to read through the expanded article, especially the mathematics section. With the additional WP links, I think most mathematically inclined readers can follow Zimmer's work. --EPadmirateur (talk) 21:18, 26 February 2013 (UTC)