Talk:Rodrigues parrot

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Mispelling of the scientific name

Hello, apparently Necropsittacus rodericanus is not the original spelling for this species, and it should be Necropsittacus rodricanus (without an e). See also this on this page: "Cheke, A & Hume, J. 2008, Fuller, 2002. Original spelling of species is rodricanus (not rodericanus). See Milne-Edwards original description (pp 151-155)."
FunkMonk, if you hear me... :) Best regards, Totodu74 (talk) 10:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm listening! Yeah, sounds weird, will fix when I get home. FunkMonk (talk) 12:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hume 2007[1] uses "rodericanus" at least. Do we know when that version was first used? It should be listed under synonyms then, in any case. FunkMonk (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Game

Hi. I'm translating this amazing article to portuguese (pt:Necropsittacus rodricanus) and I don't understand this part: "I would not have missed any game from France if this one had been commoner in Rodrigues". What "game" means on this sentence? What's the connection between bird's abundace and that "game" in France? Thanks! Dr. Lenaldo Vigo (talk) 23:15, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, "game" in this case means "wild animal(s) popularly hunted for food and sport."--Mr Fink (talk) 01:03, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see for example: Game (hunting) FunkMonk (talk) 06:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Dr. Lenaldo Vigo (talk) 15:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comments

Just some quick comments:

The thing about the holotype needs a better transition.
Be consistent in having the scientific name after the common name.

These are just some quick comments, there is probably a lot more things. RileyBugz ^{Yell at me} | _Edits 23:53, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It'll take a while before I can nominate it, so there should be plenty of time to fix any issues... What are you thinking of when you say transition? FunkMonk (talk) 00:00, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FunkMonk: I was referring to the lack of transition between these two sentences: " Though the specific name has been spelled rodericanus widely in the literature, it was changed to rodricanus by the IOC World Bird List in 2014, since this is the original spelling of the name. The current whereabouts of the holotype beak are unknown." I might have had a better solution in mind earlier, but I think it would be best to split these into two separate paragraphs, starting at the end of the first sentence (in the quotation). RileyBugz ^{Yell at me} | _Edits 02:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that's what I thought, done. FunkMonk (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

More comments:

There are multiple instances in which you need to specify the names of the researchers.

Where? I usually restrict this to the taxonomy and related sections (where much info is just based on opinions), unless there is disagreement in the literature about other issues. FunkMonk (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You start going a bit quote heavy at the end. Maybe have less quotes or distribute them better?

They're in the sections where they're discussed and therefore most relevant, though, similar to their distribution in the sources used. FunkMonk (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And that's all for now. RileyBugz ^{Yell at me} | _Edits 03:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, always good to save some comments for the final review... FunkMonk (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TFA on 10 January

Hi FunkMonk and other interested editors. This is to let you know that as a part of preparing this article for TFA I will be lightly running an eye over it for MoS-compliance and grammar, and possibly tweaking a little of the language to ensure that it is at it's very best for its appearance on the main page. If you have any queries about any of the edits don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:27, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, also feel free to ping and ask me if there are questions about the meaning of the text. FunkMonk (talk) 14:29, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few fiddling tweaks. A beautiful article. I know little of parrots, but the more I read your articles the more I like them. A possible area of contention: possessives. The MoS states

For the possessive of singular nouns, including proper names and words ending with an s, add s (my daughter's achievement, my niece's wedding, Cortez's men, the boss's office, Glass's books, Illinois's largest employer, Descartes's philosophy, Verreaux's eagle). If a name already ends in s or z and would be difficult to pronounce if s were added to the end, consider rearranging the phrase to avoid the difficulty: Jesus's teachings or the teachings of Jesus.

I didn't want to mess around with the text, so have added "s" in three cases. If you don't like that you may want to rearrange to avoid the possessives, or just revert and IAR. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:08, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have no strong opinions on that, so looks fine. And yeah, parrots are pretty charismatic, but unfortunately have a tendency to go extinct quite easily... FunkMonk (talk) 15:12, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

They also seem to speciate at the drop of a niche, which is charming and may yet benefit them. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:38, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely, close relatives of the extinct Mascarene parrots are pretty hardy and are invading Northern Europe, so perhaps they'll get their revenge? FunkMonk (talk) 15:52, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am visiting my brother near London for Christmas and he complains about the feral parakeets raiding his fruit trees, which makes me smile. Apparently there are also breeding populations of a dozen different species. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:57, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If those populations aren't exterminated, I'm sure we'll get some spiffy new locally adapted subspecies a few thousand years down the line. You'll be witnessing evolutionary history! On a side note, the echo parakeet you also copy edited and reviewed is descended from the same species as those ravaging London, and is physically very similar... FunkMonk (talk) 17:01, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]