Talk:Russian cursive

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I don't understand, why does a bot keep reverting my edit when I add a link to Youtube video!!! Do I break any rules or something?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.216.212.246 (talk) 10:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that careful handwriting presupposes distiction between т (similar to m), ш (reverted m), ж ( something like )/|/( ), as well as between и (u) and п (similar to n). Fast handwriting makes the distinction less recognizable or not recognizable at all, but the length of russian words (compared to english) helps with distinguishing.

Soviet Russian Kamrad (talk) 14:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)I am russian, but i couldn't understand what Peter I wrote:) Can I write something then scan it and insert that picture into this article?[reply]

I don't see why not. --AnWulf ... Wes þu hal! (talk) 10:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Additionally, several letters are preceded by a small "hook" ... The "hook" is written regardless of where the letter occurs in a given word." - WTF is this? I know the Cyrillic cursive and I don't get it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.73.16.127 (talk) 22:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know what the writer means but it's hard to describe. It's a small "bump" before letters like л and м that breaks up the minims to make them more readable. --AnWulf ... Wes þu hal! (talk) 10:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Connection of letters etc

On the wishlist for this article: show direction and order of lines, and how to connect the letters.--93.220.23.80 (talk) 11:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cursive <и>

Is the cursive <и> not sometimes written with an underline to distinguish it from cursive <п>? A line over a <н> would obviously be confused with <й>, so the complete parallel with <т> and <ш> wouldn't work. TomS TDotO (talk) 14:31, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, I've never seen this. --Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake on the second picture

In the Russian language the word "figure" is written as "цИфра". Please, correct. --128.70.114.116 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is right, it is a scan from an old book, цифра was written with ы in the older orthography.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cursive is not a formal?!!

Unlike English cursive, however, the Russian cursive system is not considered a "formal" style of writing. Actually it is mandatory part of curriculum for 1st class, at least it used to be during USSR times. silpol (talk) 21:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done, it has been reworked completely.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Italic text ≠ Cursive

A major problem with this article is that it seems to assume sometimes that putting text in italics will show the characters in their cursive form. This is not true for the default sans-serif fonts! --☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 05:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done, it has been reworked completely.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Animation

As someone looking for a "how to" guide I was disappointed that the external worksheet link is broken, and was hoping for something with direction of strokes. There are very nice animations of Latin characters; is anyone up for making cyrillic animations? Sparafucil (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison to printed

Found this document from Baylor University which has handwritten letterforms next to the printed glyphs for contrast. I think it would do well in this article to easily compare a letterform to its printed equivalent. Thoughts? 74.70.114.42 (talk) 04:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 14:51, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Russian cursive" example

I've deleted the example with exam answer from the top of the page. I'm Russian and that was one of the least readable pieces of handwriting I've ever seen in my life. It definitely should not be the first example.178.66.176.93 (talk) 08:37, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong lower-case letters

I've removed the images in which most of the lower-case hand-written letters were incorrect. Any Russian textbook shows that at the beginning of a word or in isolation, the letters а, б, д, и, й, к, н, о, п, р, с, т, у, ф, ц, ч, ъ, ы, ь and ю do not start with an upwards-slanting stroke. --Babel fish (talk) 15:10, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Tetromino: I've removed the image again. Please do not re-insert images that show incorrect letter forms. --Babel fish (talk) 11:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Babel fish: please mention what image you are talking about (File:Russian Cursive Cyrillic.svg), otherwise people will keep re-adding it. Second, I'm a native Russian speaker, I write and read in cursive, and I didn't notice the strokes until I read your comment and looked at the image 3 times (one's brain filters them out, since they are part of the letters when written in combination). I'm surprised that you reacted so strongly to them; and IMHO chart of of modern Russian cursive forms (with or without combining strokes) is actually useful for readers, while the charts of pre-1917 forms only interest those who are decyphering 19th century documents.
As a solution, I suggest opening a discussion on the image's talk page to get the strokes removed — it's a 10 minute job in a graphics editor. — Tetromino (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Do latin "cursive" letters (c, for example) "begin with an upstroke in isolation"? I think not, but when showing cursive letters, it is usual to show how they join to the surrounding letters. So the animation someone has posted just above, of a Latin 'c', shows an upstroke. I think this is not an error, so I do not quite see how it would be an error on a cyrillic letter either. Imaginatorium (talk) 12:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

“решили” example

The final и is wrong. The last stroke “hangs” like that only for the letter o, this is confusing and incorrect. Please correct this image. 64.79.133.104 (talk) 12:25, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who added that image. I think I can fix that on MS Paint. So, that last stroke should not be added? That's interesting... thanks for the heads up. --Bageense^(disc.) 17:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing the image

The image that leads this article is written by what I presume to be a student, but obviously a non-native speaker (no hate!). I don't think this is a good representation for Russian cursive. Is there another CC image we can replace it with? If not, I'll get a native speaker to write "Здравствуйте Википедия!" with "В чащах юга жил бы цитрус? Да, но фальшивый экземпляр!" (a pangram only missing ъ and ё) under it in Russian cursive. JungleEntity (talk) 03:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JungleEntity: Yes, I'm a non-native speaker. My purpose was to provide a more natural looking handwriting, because all the russian cursive images we find on the internet are either gibberish or too perfect. That's why I said that handwriting was "average" - not because it looks like a native speaker handwriting, but because it doesn't belong to those extremes. --Bageense^(disc.) 15:47, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]