Talk:SS Savannah

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the SS Savannah article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Ships

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles

Shipwrecks

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Shipwrecks, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of shipwreck-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ShipwrecksWikipedia:WikiProject ShipwrecksTemplate:WikiProject ShipwrecksShipwreck articles

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Shipwreck-related priority open tasks:

To Do

Lady Elizabeth (1879)
- Clean up typos Currently working on it-----Completed!
- Improve grammar
- Add any additions if needed Still adding more information
- Discuss desired additions -None

New York City Low‑importance

	New York City portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York City, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of New York City-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York CityWikipedia:WikiProject New York CityTemplate:WikiProject New York CityNew York City articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Technology

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Technology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of technology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TechnologyWikipedia:WikiProject TechnologyTemplate:WikiProject TechnologyTechnology articles

A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on June 20, 2011, June 20, 2015, and June 20, 2019.

Surely not "SS" Savannah

"SS" stands for "Screw Steamer". The Savannah was fitted with paddle wheels. Therefore, if anything, she should be the "PS Savannah".ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 00:15, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Found online at a few naval and marine sites that "SS" also stands for "Steamship." 2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 10:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"SS" as steamship is a growing modern usage, but at the time of the Savannah, there was a clear differentiation. The question, then, is why this vessel is habitually prefixed with "SS" rather than "PS". Is this a modern error or does it reflect contemporary usage?ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 22:49, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic crossing voyage dates

All my sources give "May 22" as the date the Savannah began her 'historic' voyage as the "first steam-powered vessel to cross the Atlantic."

Even the inline citation [15] source states "May 22" and NOTHING about 5:00am on a Monday. So, where did that part of 'naval yarn' come from.

Also, most sources I came across stated a crossing time of 29 days and 11 hours. If that is correct, then the voyage ended on either June 19 or June 20; NOT on the 30th.

Given all this and how involved the editing might be, I thought it best to put my concerns here rather than barge ahead with edits.

Also, another reason why the date of "May 22" is probably correct is that that date, the anniversary of the start of the voyage, was selected to be "National Maritime Day.". 2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is that really the Savannah

The graphic of the steamship in the info box with the caption of "Savannah" may NOT be the Savannah.

Look at the flag that is flying.

If the Savannah was an American-built ship, WHY WOULD IT BE FLYING THE UNION JACK?

All illustrations that I've come across online have an American flag flying.

I think some additional research into this graphic needs to be done. 2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 09:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be referring to the courtesy flag flying from the foremast. This indicates that the ship is in United Kingdom waters and, as is the long-standing convention, is flying the maritime flag of the nation in whose waters she is sailing. An American flag can be expected to flown at the mizzen - but this is not visible in the picture.
I think the significance of the UK courtesy flag in the picture is that it denotes a successful Atlantic crossing.
Incidentally, the flag being flown is not the Union Jack, it is the Red Ensign, the maritime flag of the United Kingdom.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]