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The kli rishon, sheni, and shlishi are the vessels used in the steps of transferring foods or liquids that are kept hot during Shabbat from the vessel where they are kept hot to that in which they are served. Since the heating of food or liquid is prohibited during Shabbat, but the use of food or liquid that was heated prior to the start of Shabbat and kept hot via a continually burning flame or heat source is permitted, special laws apply when this food is served.

The vessels[edit]

The three vessels are known as the kli rishon, sheni, and shlishi. The Hebrew word kli translates into "vessel," and the Hebrew words rishon, sheni, and shlishi translate into first, second, and third respectively.

Kli rishon[edit]

The kli rishon is the vessel in which the food, which has been heated before the start of Shabbat, is kept hot during Shabbat by a heat source that was started before Shabbat, and that will continue to burn throughout Shabbat without any human intervention at least up until the time the food is served.

Common items that are used as a kli rishon are a pot or pan placed on a blech or hot plate, or a crock pot for foods, or a hot water dispenser or coffeemaker for liquids.

Kli sheni[edit]

The kli sheni is the vessel that serves as the intermediary when transferring the food or liquid from the kli rishon to the kli shlishi (the vessel on which the food or liquid will be consumed). Objects commonly used as the kli sheni include a serving dish (useful for cholent or stew) or a ladle (useful for soup). For liquids, an additional cup may be used.

Kli Shlishi[edit]

The kli shlishi is generally viewed as the vessel in which the food or liquid is consumed, or where the final stages of mixing take place, hence the plate, bowl, or cup. No special rules apply if any transfers occur beyond this point.


The reason for the kli rishon, sheni, and shlishi is to prevent the heat from heated food or liquid from cooking cool items during Shabbat. If food or liquid is poured straight from the source where it is being kept hot (the kli rishon) into the vessel where it is consumed (the kli shlishi), any cool items already found within or later added to that vessel will be heated by the contents of the hot vessel. But if they are transferred from another vessel that is not in contact with a heating source (the kli sheni), the heat the cool items within the kli shlishi are receiving is not considered to be an act of cooking[1]

Very frequently, in practice, some cool item is added to cooked food prior to consumption. This may include various condiments, bread or croutons added to soup, spices or seasonings. When tea is steeped, it is absorbed in the hot water. Sweeteners and creamers are also frequently added to hot beverages. Even if the intention is to consume the food or beverage without any additions, one may forget and make some addition, thereby violating the prohibition.

Yahshua said it well, that you all are way too busy observing mans commandments and have missed the weightier matters of torah: judgment, mercy and faith.[edit]

Shabbat shalom!

Let's look at two contrasting view points:

Mainstream Christianity:

For the most part, christianity has not learned of the beauty of torah. However, the One they profess as Messiah, taught them to observe the commandments of God. But yet, their leaders/teachers keep teaching them that the commandments were only for Jews, that now-a-days things have changed and they have a "new way" to approach the righteous God of heaven, just say you believe in the Messiah and you're saved. This is one of the reasons Jews think that those who believe in Messiah Yahshua (Jesus Christ) are idol worshippers and would never dream of "converting" because they see that Christianity does not follow torah, which is the agreement God made with Abraham and His Children known as the Children of Israel.

Modern day Judaism:

From generation to generation, faithful lovers of their God have carried on His WORD through much turmoil and adversity. We give thanks to the Father in heaven for our Brothers Levi, Yahudah and his children thereafter who are desiring to keep covenant with the True God of heaven. There is one thing lacking that cannot be overlooked. You have heard from Christian preachers who were in error due to doctrines of men, just as doctrines of too many rabbi's has clouded the original intention of the beauty of torah which is that every man and woman could understand it without such longwinded testimonies over how to wash ones' hands, clean plates or exact drop of kiddush wine. The torah was not meant to be debated over and endlessly scrutinized until men are weary, but to be a guide for a fruitful and spiritual day-to-day life walking with God as Enoch did.

Modern day scattered remnant of Yisrael (northern tribes ) being called back to torah through faith in Yahshua Messiah:

I pray that you will seek to know that Yahshua is the One who is gathering together ALL THE TRIBES OF YISRAEL and He is doing it by the power of His Spirit.

When we have our stoney heart removed and a heart of flesh inserted (spiritually) by the Almighty God, we are now being led into right ways by the Ruach haKodesh.

Let's read or hear the WORD and allow the Ruach haKodesh to guide us in the paths of right ways.

Tehilim 119:105-106 (NUN) Your word is a lamp to my feet, and a light for my path.

I have sworn, and have confirmed it, that I will obey your righteous ordinances.