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References to use[edit]

Please add to the list references that can be used for the article.
  • Hood, Gwyneth (1988). "Sauron and Dracula". In Carter, Margaret L. Dracula: The Vampire and the Critics. UMI Research Press. ISBN 0835718891. 
  • Kocher, Paul (2003). "Sauron and the nature of evil". Master of Middle-Earth: The Fiction of J.R.R. Tolkien. DelRey. ISBN 0345465601. 
  • Larsen, Kristine (2007). "Sauron, Mount Doom, and Elvish moths: The influence of Tolkien on modern science". In Anderson, Douglas A.; Drout, Michael D.C.; Flieger, Verlyn. Tolkien Studies, Volume 4. West Virginia University Press. ISBN 1933202262. 
  • Martinez, Michael (2003). "The Sauron Strategies". Understanding Middle Earth: Essays on Tolkien's Middle Earth. Vivisphere Pub. ISBN 1587761459. 

Excessive text.[edit]

There is far too much text in this article that has little to do with Sauron, more to do with the plot of the Lord of the Rings. I think we need to look at shortening it considerably. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 19:19, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


I'm calling WP:RS on the blurb about Alexandr Nemirovsky and the suggested Hurrian source of "Sauron". The referenced webpage is an amateurish self-published page by someone with no chops as a Tolkien scholar. The chance resemblance to a Hurrian phrase is at best a mere curiosity, at worst aggrandizing and misleading. I propose removing this unless someone weighs in. -- Elphion (talk) 15:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, looks similar to the claims from a few years ago that Boromir was Bulgarian in origin. Seems anyone with access to a web page can claim to be a 'scholar' these days. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 17:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Done. -- Elphion (talk) 15:40, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Iris or pupil?[edit]

Someone added that Jackson's Hobbit shows the eye's iris as the "spiritual essence". Is it truly the iris, or the pupil? -- Elphion (talk) 23:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

The "sigul" of the Crimson King[edit]

This phrase appears in "Allusions in other work" in the first paragraph, discussing King's mythos. Does King use this misspelling, or can we correct this to "sigil"? -- Elphion (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Mezigue has rendered this moot ([1]) by deleting that sentence as unsourced. -- Elphion (talk) 16:06, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Missing Information[edit]

This article is missing important information on the character's critical reception, namely critic's reactions to the character, major polls, surveys, that list the character as a major literary villain. These need to be added into the article in order for it to completely cover the scope of its subject and meet wikipiedia's standards of a well developed article.--Paleface Jack (talk) 18:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)