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Dan Swano?

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Is there a source stating he's the new singer or not? 84.66.64.14 (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Power metal

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To say that they are only melodeath is very dumb.. powerful clean vocals that make up large parts of many of their songs, melodeath does not make. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.199.25 (talk) 18:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a reliable source for this assertion. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-edit conflict- I'm just going to say that this is called original research and that your reasoning would mean Soilwork, In Flames, Disarmonia Mundi, Amorphis, Edge of Sanity are all power metal as well which doesn't make any sense. Their elements are closer to progressive metal than anything (especially now) and to add, their last two associated acts are progressive. FireCrystal (talk) 22:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


By your logic the repetitive reverting of the genre is also original research. You don't provide citations for their being a melodic death metal band either, so until then the Power Metal tag is just as acceptable. Zaruyache (talk)

Added a citation. And don't try to tell me songs like Trapezoid aren't power metal. 72.72.199.25 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Can anyone comment if a review from www.revelationz.net classifies as a good source for this cite? Jwoodger (talk) 13:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source for melodic death (which has been in the genre parameter since the article was created) be free to search for ones on power metal. FireCrystal (talk) 00:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Power metal has to carry an uplifting atmosphere with it, like Sabatons 40 to 1 for example. It's about battle, glory et caetera: lyrically as well as musically. Scar Symmetry has some Power Metal influences, that's for sure, but I would rather say they are progressive melodic death metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.40.203.182 (talk) 21:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive metal

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Look, there are undeniable Progressive metal influences. That's a fact, accept it. The band themselves admit to it; just look at Scar Symmetry's Myspace page if you don't believe me. Don't even try to tell me that songs like Timewave Zero are pure Melodic death metal.

Anyway, the point of Wikipedia is that it free for everyone to edit, so stop changing the page back to how you want it. Respect other peoples' observations and contributions; If everyone disagrees with you, that's usually a clear indication that you're wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.209.191 (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Though true, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that is free for anyone to edit there are certain rules and guidelines that limit contributions and of which should be based on verifiability and reliable sources. Whether it is right or wrong is irrelevant. They may have influences of progressive metal but that doesn't mean they are, as the scene is progressive in nature. Your personal opinion is called original research and I have the right to revert it until a source can be found. And no, their MySpace doesn't count as one. This is an example of a self-published source which are looked down upon. FireCrystal (talk) 00:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Self-Published Sources can be considered acceptable when created by an established expert in the subject, who have previously produced/published work in the relevant field. I think that we can be fairly certain that the band themselves can be considered a reliable authority on the subject of the genre(s) of their own music. The band themselves created and run their Myspace page, and if they claim that one of there genres/influences is Progressive metal, then that can be considered a fact until another party can provide substantial evidence to disprove it. By refusing to accept this, you are suggesting that you know more about the band's music than they do. You are also ignoring and deleting valid citations and contributions from other users, simply due to the fact that their ideas don't match your own personal opinion. You have no more evidence to support your claim than anyone else, and your perspective can therefore be considered to be based purely on personal bias until proven otherwise. If however, you are able to provide a valid source that proves that the band's music is not Progressive metal, then your outlook may be considered more credible. Until then, you must accept other peoples' opinions, and stop reverting their contributions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.35.86 (talk) 16:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that this occasion can occur. The band themselves are a self-published source again and the band should not have a say on whatever genre they want to be such as Jari Maenpaa of Wintersun with his "Extreme Majestic Technical Epic Melodic Metal" tag he used in an interview (which was probably just for some laughs) or some other melodic death band saying that they're just heavy metal (the genre, not the general term like CoB has). I understand that MySpace is an official site of theirs but never has MySpace been used as a reliable source for anything, especially when it comes to featured articles. If this article was ever reviewed for featured status (probably good article first) it would be the first source which would be mercilessly removed but enough of this. I respect your opinion but I am only adhering to Wikipedia's policies and removing unreliable sources that users put into the article and I'm doing this within good faith, there was no opinion involved. Also, I'm actually on the same line as you genrewise: I know they have progressive elements to their music (especially on their latest release) and some of their other projects being progressive-based. I'm ok with the new source added though another should be added that straight out identifies them as a progressive metal band as elements is not really enough and declaring my perspective as biased was completely unnecessary. FireCrystal (talk) 01:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The sounds

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Sounds like melodic death metal with a Groove Metal style I.A.F 01 (talk) 05:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but neither the band nor their albums are sourced as groove metal. Please include reliable sources to any added genres. Thank you....SirZPthundergod9001 (talk) 14:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]