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To do/check[edit]

In the PLC:

  • could a law pass without King's support? Since when?
  • before the Nihil Novi, could King's lack of support stop the legislation entirely?
  • could the King propose the legislation himself?
  • did the Senate dignitaries had a vote in the Sejm - what was their power beside being advisors to the King? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To translate more from PWN entry. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 14:14, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To translate Polish wiki template: pl:Szablon:Posłowie kadencji PRL i RP. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 13:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Sejm[edit]

What do you think about a specific category for specific sejm sub-types (like confederated) and famous Sejm (like Silent or Contract)?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 19:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

About how many articles are candidates? Anyway, sounds ok to me. Deuar 18:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
We have about 10 articles listed now in Sejm#See_also, and although there are only a few Sejm-types, I think eventually every Sejm office term (pl:kadencja - how is it translated into English?) is notable and deserves it's own article (and of those we may have even a hundred or more, eventually).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
"term of office" i suspect, although there's no article by that name. Deuar 12:29, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Contemporary Sejm[edit]

I think the current article has far too little (relatively) about the present Sejm. The impression you get from a brief look at the article is that the most important things happened centuries ago. I would also like to suggest that the historical section be moved below discussion of the present Sejm. Deuar 12:29, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I usually prefer for history to go before the main. But you are right that the present needs to be expanded... I am pretty sure one can find info about the present Sejm in English and online (on their pages) rather easily.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 22:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

PRL Sejm[edit]

Just a point of clarification:

The Sejm in the People's Republic of Poland was to have 460 deputies

So did it actually have 460 members? If not how many were there. Also, did the number of members change with the years? Deuar 21:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Tnx for the catch, I fixed it ('had'). I have no info on the number changing.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Initially, Sejm consisted of 425 members. About 1960 there was simply no room for additional armchairs, so the number has been fixed (Act of December 22, 1960; effective Dec 27). Picus viridis 15:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Very interesting! Typical for PRL ith those armchairs ;-) Deuar 14:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

National Assembly[edit]

The National Assembly is not the name of the Polish Parliament: "The National Assembly (Zgromadzenie Narodowe) is the name of both chambers of the Polish parliament, the Sejm and the Senate, when sitting in joint session." Barry Kent 20:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sejm of the People's Republic of Poland[edit]

This paragraph is idiotic. There existed a partially free Sejm with PSL and later all Sejms were staged. As one deputy wrote (Kruczek ?) - they visited Warsaw to buy basic products.Xx236 08:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Basic data[edit]

How many Sejms were there in II RP, PRL, III RP? Xx236 08:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Source tags[edit]

Sorry I had to use so many (and they're appearing weird b/w sections) but there's really only one section that has references (and they're not that wonderful, sadly). I didn't want to use a big fat totally no-sources tag at the top, and also didn't want to [citation needed] up the text, so this was the only way. I copyedited pretty much the whole article & can't work on sourcing right now (no time); I'm hoping someone who knows more about the Sejm can work on it awhile, maybe. Thankee -- Sugarbat (talk) 02:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh -- P.S. I forgot to mention I removed some Polish terms for things that didn't seem necessary to reiterate in Polish. For the record: It's probably a good idea to try not to use other languages in an English article unless the terms/phrases will interest/educate the reader (use your best judgment). In some cases, giving translations does little more than clutter up the article, and in the worst cases (I'm seeing this a lot, for some reason, in a bunch of Poland-related articles -- but not just there) people are forgetting to provide the English terms altogether. Just be carefulz, is all I'm saying. SB

Category:National lower houses vs. Category:Sejm[edit]

Category:Sejm is itself a category within Category:National lower houses. — Robert Greer (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

So? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Membership update for December 2010[edit]

After looking at the nice membership graph in the side infobox recently, I noticed that it's horribly out of date for the current Sejm as of this moment. The chart does not indicate recent developments from by-elections, the collapse of the LiD in 2008, and the party split by rebellious PiS members to form the PJN at the end of 2010. If someone can recreate the chart to reflect current changes, that would be great. Miles530 (talk) 06:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Not B-class[edit]

I have reviewed this article for WP:POLAND and it does not meet B-class criteria: little if any references, only history section is seems somewhat comprehensive - little on organization, nothing on function, nothing on election procedures, there are probably other areas that need to be covered. It is barely C class, perhaps should even be just start class. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Chambers?[edit]

You can read here: 'In the Kingdom of Poland Sejm referred to the entire three-chamber parliament of Poland, comprising the lower house (Chamber of Envoys; Polish: Izba Poselska), the upper house (Senate; Polish: Senat) and the King'. Obviously, the King is no chamber. All the three elements indispensable for the functioning of ordinary Polish-Lithuanian diets should be referred to as 'estates of the diet' (Pol. stany sejmujące). I do not deem it necessary to find exact equivalents for the early modern institutions in the language of the present-day politics. That world was simply different and we should try to respect it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.31.229.156 (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Women in Sejm[edit]

Roza Pomeranc-Meltzerowa was elected not in 1919 but 1922. Source - Polish Sejm base https://bs.sejm.gov.pl/F/HDG1KL7SRYS7CY98217SV4JKPIL3SVPX9KPI2M7BHVI1D6VQ75-07426?func=full-set-set&set_number=041367&set_entry=000001&format=999 But a number of Polish women were elected in 1919, for example Gabriela Balicka https://bs.sejm.gov.pl/F/HDG1KL7SRYS7CY98217SV4JKPIL3SVPX9KPI2M7BHVI1D6VQ75-68650?func=find-b&request=balicka&find_code=WRD&adjacent=N&x=41&y=9 or Zofia Sokolnicka https://bs.sejm.gov.pl/F/HDG1KL7SRYS7CY98217SV4JKPIL3SVPX9KPI2M7BHVI1D6VQ75-69150?func=full-set-set&set_number=041791&set_entry=000001&format=999 31.172.189.130 (talk) 13:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)