Talk:Serene Branson

BLP

Just a note - I've mentioned this article at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard and asked for a few people to watch over it. Per the edit summary I just left on the main page, let's try not to get into too much speculation, medical detail, or news of the moment regarding her Grammy coverage incident, and please use proper secondary source citations so that anything can be verified. It's considered "original research" to watch the video and then make your own description of what happens, and we don't really need all that if we have a link to the video. Best is to add some biographical detail, career highlights, and so on, keeping in mind that this article will last for many years. What would a reader five years from now want to know about her? - Wikidemon (talk) 21:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Until there is some sourcing other than blogs and youtube, the whole section needs to be left out. Kevin (talk) 00:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Can we let this be for a few minutes while proper research is done? Accurately citing these things takes time. Don't delete this article, this is an excellent source for a compilation of information regarding this currently relevant topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torqtorqtorq (talk • contribs) 00:41, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I would like to mention a few things regarding this article: First, this person is noteable. According to her biography on the CBS Los Angeles website, she is an accomplished, if young, journalist who is a television personality, and therefore a public personality who is subject to different privacy laws than the general population; since she is the reporter for a major news affiliate in one of the world's most populated cities, she is well known by many. Certainly a person worth writing about, even if the article is short. Second, a rather unique and highly visible incident occurred in which she was the focus. The incident has been discussed at length by bloggers and news organizations. The level of interest in this incident is sufficient for its inclusion into this article; if we dismissed every relatively trivial incident, we would be missing a pethora of interesting and highly accurate information on Wikipedia. Third, the incident was broadcast live to an enormous number of people. It is not hearsay or speculation, but rather indisputable evidence that this incident occurred, regardless of its cause. It definitely happened; it is rather unique, regardless of cause; it has high media attention; it happened to a public figure. Don't delete this article. torq (talk) 01:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Please review the policies I pointed to. Off the top of my head, WP:BLP, WP:WEIGHT, WP:NOT#NEWS, WP:BLP1E, WP:OR. Yes, she is a (likely) notable public figure and all those concerns apply. Those types of concerns are already factored into how we treat trivia / gossip / tabloid / viral video type of news about minor celebrities. We don't ignore it, but we do try to treat it in an encyclopedic, factual way. - Wikidemon (talk) 01:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

BLP Semi-Protect

I asked for and received a two week semi-protect on the article due to numerous reverts and BLP issues. Safiel (talk) 02:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Not reliable sources

• Just a note, to ensure it is not cited, this is not a valid source: (14 February 2011). Reporter Serene Branson Says She Didn’t Have a Stroke and Feels Blerasdjkdfhjdfueasfrkvert, Bennington Vale Evening Transcript--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 05:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
• Another source, good info, but from a defunct blog: (7 December 2007). Selene Branson, Gridiron Girls (blog) (via archive.org).--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 23:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Keep away from blogs unless they are from reliable sources such as a medical journal or a mainstream media outlet such as the Los Angeles Times or yes Fox News(reliability is not about the organizations agenda but do they rigorously fact check). Edkollin (talk) 07:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. so i guess citing my own tweets is not allowed? j/k.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 19:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Notable as famous event and canonical example of aphasia

I think this article should be deleted. The only reason she's on here is that Grammy incident on air. I'm truly ashamed that I'm part of this unfeeling,cruel,malicious, human species that don't know how to show a ounce of compassion for others and for this young woman's health and well being who's life was turned upside down. Instead what do people do they laugh at her saying she's drunk. How dare you!!! If she was drunk don't you think her staff would know?? There would be NO way that she was risk her career especially on live TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.225.85.247 (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, just doing something crazy on tv is enough to make you notable, e.g. TV suicide: perhaps R. Budd Dwyer's political career and scandal were notable, but Christine Chubbuck was certainly only notable because she created a spectacle. Secondly, an unusual medical condition alone is notable: e.g. Phineas Gage, HM (patient), KC (patient), Clive Wearing, David Vetter, Ted DeVita, Baby Fae. While stroke is not unusual, this case is a clear and compelling example of the symptoms of a severe and often unrecognized condition and may notable for its value in public health education. I say delete it if nobody is talking about this in a month, but it's too soon to tell. __ø(._. ) Patrick("\(.:...:.)/")Fisher 01:20, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I suspect nobody will be talking about in a month. Nobody will be talking about the Grammy's in a month should we delete that? Outside of some extreme event like Hurricane Katrina, or 9/11 in to today's world many not only notable, but very notable events are not talked about a month or even a week later Edkollin (talk) 17:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

SAVE the page

First, this person is an Emmy winner. That alone makes her notable. However, and much more important, her on-air episode while reporting at the Grammys appears to be the ONLY recorded instance of a person having this migraine variant. As such, this will undoubtedly be shown for training at every medical school, everywhere, forever. This is a RARE migraine variant, and these happen unpredicably. There is virtually (if any) NO doctor who has ever actually seen this happen, at least recorded. 100 years from now, doctors will be talking about the "Branson Episode". She will live in medical history forever.

And your WP:CRYSTAL ball tells you this? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:06, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The Emmy is a local award, hardly notable. I love the unsupported statements that this is the only recorded instance of the symptoms and that no doctor has seen this happen. Such wild statements are what dilute Wikipedia's usefulness and give it such a bad name in academia. If you wish to make such incredible statements at least provide some support. ttonyb (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

If Wikipedia has a bad name in academia, perhaps academia is a little clueless. In any event, this is the talk page for the article, and the discussion about whether or not to delete the article is located at the "AfD" link at the very top of the main article page (or, if that's missing it means the article was kept and the link to the discussion will be at the top of this page). Discussion there is a lot more useful, as the administrators deciding on keeping this article or not will not pay much attention to this page. - Wikidemon (talk) 03:30, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

proposal to incubate Serene Branson

Please see Wikipedia talk:Article Incubator#proposal for an incubated version of Serene Branson.  Unscintillating (talk) 13:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)