Talk:Shining Spark

A fact from Shining Spark appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Shining Spark has sired 1,300 foals?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Shining Spark has sired 1,300 foals? Source: He has sired more than 1,300 foals.[1]
- ALT0a: ... that Shining Spark has fathered over 1,300 children?
- ALT1: ... that Shining Spark's grandchildren earned $24.1 millon in western riding? Source: Foals from his daughters earned over $24.1 million.[2]
- ALT2: ... that Shining Spark earned more than ten million dollars?Source: He has earned more than ten million dollars [3]

Created by Dawnleelynn (talk). Self-nominated at 17:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I will review Bruxton (talk) 22:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Article has been five times expanded since April 7, 2022. We are waiting on QPQ (this is your fifteenth dyk). Hook ALT0 is referenced and interesting. The first paragraph of the career section is not cited. I do wonder if the pedigree should be referenced? I also wonder if a non-free picture can be added - just as we do for deceased people. I do not find copyright violations and the article is neutral. Bruxton (talk) 22:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Bruxton, I will get on it. This is very nice. I am working on my QPQ now. I will get these things done. I agree the pedigree should be sourced; I usually do. I must have lost that citation when doing some editing so will get that back. I am not sure it has been long enough for a fair use rationale for his picture, but I know who to ask. It would be nice; he was a beautiful horse. Thanks!
Reviewed QPQ --> Template:Did you know nominations/Kuala Langat North Forest Reserve
Bruxton Hi, I completed the QPQ. Everything you asked for should be done now. Thanks again! p.s. Is there a template for the talk page I need to do to tell the editor I completed their QPQ? Or is notification with a ping on their template enough? dawnleelynn^(talk) 03:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dawnleelynn: Looks like the page is in order now, thanks for the rapid fixes. No notification is needed. But they may appreciate a note on their talk page in case they are not watching the page. I have been reading the requirements for a non-free photo, and while it does not specifically address animaals, if we apply the rationale to people: subject is deceased so no free photo can be created, and none are known to exist. I searched Flickr and other places and found no free photos. It seems like the non-free rationale would be ok (Just uploaded locally and just for the article not for the DYK). If I am incorrect I hope someone tells me before I plow forward. Bruxton (talk) 14:27, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxton Ok, I have created several logo images before. I have also added some person and bull images to some articles. What were you thinking to do next? I know where there are several pictures of the horse. Some of him, some with his owner. dawnleelynn^(talk) 14:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxton It is moot now, but my mentor said go for it. dawnleelynn^(talk) 17:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton and Dawnleelynn: I proposed an ALT0a, I thought it was too good to pass up. Fine to go with something else, but let me know :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:40, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Theleekycauldron Foal is technically correct but if more people will understand children better, I'm fine with it. They will be exposed to foal if they click through to the article. Up to Bruxton. dawnleelynn^(talk) 22:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Dawnleelynn: It's not necessarily about accessibility as much as it is about quirk. In the last slot of every set, the hook will be a little more wacky, and sometimes it does that by playing with words a little. See, for example, this hook I wrote for Pronunciation of GIF (nom): "did you know that it's pronounced "gif", not "gif"?" fun stuff like that. Giving a name without context and correctly pointing out that they have 1,300 children is pretty wacky (we call them "quirky hooks"), which I enjoy. Some people don't like them and don't write them; if that's you, that's totally cool. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - Theleekycauldron I know about gif. I've worked in software for many years. And I'm totally about quirkly hooks if possible. Go for it! dawnleelynn^(talk) 23:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Theleekycauldron There was no consensus for the quirky hook to be used on the DYK talk page. What do you suggest? SL93 (talk) 17:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

go with ALT0, it's a solid hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 18:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]