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Dubious[edit]

Stigma of Programmer Term[edit]

This exists in highly unbalanced mind of the author of the comment. Looks to me as a revenge of a hacker to the stigma attached to that term 20:49, 25 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.36.27.35 (talk)

PEO Licencing Software Engineers[edit]

That link #28 (as of Feb 10, 2014) is currently broken. The article which that link is supposed to point to is also six years out of date. The PEO currently accepts Software Engineering as a valid "stream" and licences engineers who practice Software Engineering (in Ontario). I'm in that stream to receive my certification. This paragraph requires some cleanup. Jarod (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

nice try Hired.com and DevFactor[edit]

someone slipped in a little link to Hired.com as a direct link, not as a citation. The article talks about that one company but there are many others that also have been involved in gauging the skill of software engineers. Good try though trying to up the search ranking of Hired!

The offending sentence for the historical record:

Services such as Hired are trying to better gauge the coding ability of an engineer, given not all engineers progress their abilities at the same rate.

What's funny is that the link is broken.

--OMouse (talk) 16:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

U.S-centric tone and stats[edit]

the article has a lot of U.S. related information and software engineering is a global field though it may have gotten its start in the US and European countries. I'm sure we can dig up stats in other places that make this a more global article.

--OMouse (talk) 16:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

BRD for "most states prohibit unlicensed" engineers[edit]

Recently, edits have added the following:

In the United States, most states prohibit unlicensed persons from calling themselves an "engineer"...

This, from my professional experience, isn't true. It's also contradicted by the paragraph that follows this: (Some of the states regulate the use of... "software engineer". (my emphasis). The added "most states" claim includes only one new ref, for the single state of Georgia. The claim has been reverted twice, and now the exact same text has been added again by Engineeringworld2. Per WP:BRD, I'm restoring the pre-contention state, awaiting discussion here for any evidence that such restrictions apply to the majority of US states. --A D Monroe III(talk) 23:48, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

User:A D Monroe III Such as the immigration laws... states are behind in enforcing laws... from my User: Engineeringworld2 professional experience many people that call themselves software "engineer" really need to be calling themselves software "developers". In either case, states regulate the term "engineer" for the public welfare, safety, safeguarding of life, health, or property because of many engineering failures caused by incompetent people that they thought they were "engineers". So, nowadays most engineering failures are coming in from software side. Equifax being the latest largest headline...Needless to say because of all recent failures, based on my professional experience is time to set the record straight...we are at a crossroad, so we need to set the ship in the right path. Is ok for folks that are "developers". They just need to correctly call themselves "developers". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineeringworld2 (talkcontribs) 09:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree it's important that professionals don't misrepresent themselves; the world would be a better place if we could avoid that ever happening. But Wikipedia cannot change society, society changes Wikipedia. Whatever is happening in the real world is what gets reported by WP. There are other online wikis that attempt to drive their version of the WP:TRUTH, but that drives them into catering only to small fringe groups. To avoid that, WP must rely on reliable sources, rather than on what "should be". --A D Monroe III(talk) 15:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Changes to the "Regulatory classification" section[edit]

I've removed the excessive citations attempting to prove a fact about the word "engineer" which is demonstrated in the sentence Texas and Florida are among the states that regulate the use of terms such as computer engineer[32] and software engineer[33].. Please discuss. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)