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Splitting up the village and the town

@Ymblanter: what's your objection to splitting up the village and the town? They've been legally distinct entities ever since the village incorporated in 2015, so they should have separate articles. There's a little more background on my talk page as to why these should be split up. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 23:33, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@TheCatalyst31: My main objection is that IP copied large pieces of text without attribution, which constitutes copyright violation. My second objection is that they have done it in such a way that the articles have a large overlap in text, there are several paragraphs which were identical in two articles. I tried to explain this to IP, but they were more interested in starting personal attacks.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Administrative divisions of Wisconsin article has information about local government in Wisconsin. Hopefully, this will help. Thank you-RFD (talk) 11:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that makes more sense. The new town article probably should be pretty different, given that the bulk of the original town is now part of the village; I figured that the article would end up that way eventually, but I missed that the IP didn't attribute anything to the original article. Since it sounds like you don't have any objections to the split itself (and correct me if I'm wrong), I'll start a town article from scratch so these two areas aren't lumped into the same article. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 15:58, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you everyone for your help-RFD (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I started Somers (town), Wisconsin, changed this article to be about the village, merged the now-unnecessary Somers (community), Wisconsin article into the village, and updated a few other things; let me know if I missed anything. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 16:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Setting the record straight

Do these look identical to you?

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Somers is a town in Kenosha County, Wisconsin, United States. The population was 9,597 at the 2010 census. In 2015, the village of Somers was incorporated from the northern part of the town.
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Somers is a village^[1] in Kenosha County, Wisconsin, United States.

History

The community was originally named Pike Grove on April 15, 1843 by an act of the Wisconsin territorial legislature, and became Somers in 1851. One story tells of a wealthy Englishman by that name whom the residents were hoping to entice into financing a rail line from Pike Grove to Chicago. Another transient nickname for Somers at about that time was Aurora, where for a time a post office operated with that name from the Willis Tavern.^[2]

Following a referendum in April 2015, most of the Town of Somers was split off and incorporated as the village of Somers.^[3] Only segments of the town now remain, with most surrounded by the city of Kenosha.^[4]
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Somers was originally part of the Town of Somers. In April 2015 voters approved a referendum that incorporated the northern part of the town as a village.^[5]

Geography

According to the United States Census Bureau, the town has a total area of 30.5 square miles (79.1 km²), of which, 30.5 square miles (79.0 km²) of it is land and 0.04 square miles (0.1 km²) of it (0.07%) is water.
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According to the United States Census Bureau, the town had a total area of 30.5 square miles (79.1 km²), of which, 30.5 square miles (79.0 km²) of it is land and 0.04 square miles (0.1 km²) of it (0.07%) is water.

Berryville is a residential and business community near the intersection of Kenosha County Highway A (7th Street) and Highway 32 (Sheridan Road). The community was named for the proliferation of strawberry farms in the area.^[6] The Berryville School was a community fixture into the 1980s, when it was demolished for new housing. Adjacent to the school to the south was the Mid-City Outdoor Theatre (1948-1984), one of Wisconsin's first drive-in theatres.^[7]

Government

The Town of Somers is overseen by a three-person Board of Supervisors, with one acting as the chair. The board appoints a town administrator.^[8]
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The village is overseen by a seven-member Board of Trustees.^[9]

Education

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Shoreland Lutheran High School is a private Christian high school of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS).
The University of Wisconsin–Parkside is located in the village.

Notable people

William H. Flett, Wisconsin legislator^[10]
Margaret Landon, author of Anna and the King of Siam
Drue Leyton, actress, writer, member of the French Resistance^[11]
Conrad Shearer, Wisconsin legislator^[12]

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This has never been a copyright issue. 32.218.152.21 (talk) 19:33, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Brines, Jon (24 May 2015). "Somers Village Board gets off to rocky start". Retrieved 15 June 2017.
^ Kenosha placenames
^ Somers Village and Town. Profile of Village and Town.
^ Somers Town and Village Boundaries.
^ Somers Village and Town. Profile of Village and Town.
^ Chicago and North Western Railway Company (1908). A History of the Origin of the Place Names Connected with the Chicago & North Western and Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha Railways. p. 44.
^ Kenosha Placenames
^ Somers Village and Town. Board of Supervisors - Town.
^ Somers Village and Town. Board of Trustees - Village.
^ 'Wisconsin Blue Book 1911,' Biographical Sketch of William H. Flett, pg. 648
^ 'Drue Leyton; Actress, Member of the French Resistance,' Los Angeles Times, February 11, 1997
^ 'Wisconsin Blue Book 1923,' Biographical Sketch of Conrad Shearer, pg. 625

My changes and edits will not save

I am new at editing. I am attempting to correct our municipal page but my new text will not save. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somers,_Wisconsin — Preceding unsigned comment added by VilSomersJNelson (talk • contribs) 20:20, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping to RFD and Arjayay, who reverted previous changes to the article. Primefac (talk) 20:27, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Somers, Wisconsin has a website Town and Village of Somers-there is some confusion why the article about Somers, Wisconsin is the municipal page-thank you-RFD (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2017 (UTC) Arjayay[reply]

I have reviewed the recent edits, and your comments above, and there seem to be several problems:-

You must understand, this is not "your" municipal page - it is Wikipedia's page about Somers, Wisconsin, and will include whatever information is published in reliable, independent sources.
Wikipedia is never very interested in what the subject of an article has to say about itself, or wants included, nor what people connected with the subject have to say, as this tends not to be a neutral point of view.
Wikipedia is, however, interested in what reliable third party sources have to say about the subject
It appears that you have a potential conflict of interest in editing the page - which you have already been warned about on your talk page
You are removing sourced information, without an explanation - in particular removing information from and references to the article "Somers Village Board gets off to rocky start" which makes it appear to be a case of I don't like it
You are removing standard templates like the Reflist which break the page formatting

Please read and follow our guidance at Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and post your requests for edits on this page, citing reliable third party sources - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 21:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Neighborhoods

Should the information for the communities of Central Park and Kellogg's Corners be added to this page and have those pages deleted and merged into this page? Like the Berryville section of this article has information about the community of Berryville and I was thinking maybe we could rename this section to Neighborhoods or Communities and include the information from those areas into that section. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 06:25, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merging

Should the articles for Central Park and Kellogg's Corners be merged with this article and have those communities be in the same section as Berryville? NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 10:15, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Brines, Jon (24 May 2015). "Somers Village Board gets off to rocky start". Retrieved 15 June 2017.

[2] Kenosha placenames

[3] Somers Village and Town. Profile of Village and Town.

[4] Somers Town and Village Boundaries.

[5] Somers Village and Town. Profile of Village and Town.

[6] Chicago and North Western Railway Company (1908). A History of the Origin of the Place Names Connected with the Chicago & North Western and Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha Railways. p. 44.

[7] Kenosha Placenames

[8] Somers Village and Town. Board of Supervisors - Town.

[9] Somers Village and Town. Board of Trustees - Village.

[10] 'Wisconsin Blue Book 1911,' Biographical Sketch of William H. Flett, pg. 648

[11] 'Drue Leyton; Actress, Member of the French Resistance,' Los Angeles Times, February 11, 1997

[12] 'Wisconsin Blue Book 1923,' Biographical Sketch of Conrad Shearer, pg. 625

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