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I started a new article based on the geographic sources I found. As I have said elsewhere, Wikipedia's use of "South Florida" to refer only to the Dade-Broward-Palm Beach metropolitan area is idiosyncratic; while definitions vary, clearly "South Florida" is used for a much wider part of the state than just those three counties. And few if any sources use the term "South Florida metropolitan area", which is always bad news. It is time to discuss moving the article on the metro area.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've been working on this article, and it looks good. However, having this and the South Florida metropolitan area articles is confusing, as the two correlate to roughly the same geographic area. There's a lot of overlap between the two, and I'm worried this might create more confusion than is necessary. Either we [1] merge the two under "South Florida," or [2] keep "South Florida" as a broader regional term encompassing the geographic southern portion of the state, and move "South Florida metropolitan area" to "Greater Miami" or "Miami metropolitan area," and focus that article on Miami's official MSA. My main concern with the second option is, someone searching for "South Florida" is probably searching for information on the Miami metro area, not necessarily "Southern Florida." --Comayagua99 (talk) 21:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there is certainly confusion there, but the issue is with the article on the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale MSA. Clearly the thing to do will be to move "South Florida metropolitan area" to "Miami metropolitan area". As the sources used for the South Florida article clearly demonstrate, "South Florida" applies to a much wider part of the state than the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale MSA. Additionally, the form "South Florida metropolitan area" is barely used outside of Wikipedia, which is never a good thing.--Cúchullain ^t/c 23:32, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Secession?

I removed the recently added material on the supposed push for a state of "South Florida". First and foremost, it was devoting a pretty substantial section of the article to material covered in a single, 250-word article from the South Florida Sun-Sentinal. Second, it didn't accurately reflect what the source actually says. This wasn't a real "secession" movement; it was a political statement from some local officials in one town who felt their constituency wasn't being treated fairly by the state government. The article itself says "The resolution apparently is more a statement than an actual threat." The passage also included a bunch of material about supposed cultural and political differences between South Florida and "North Florida" (here meaning all of Florida excluding the Miami area) that aren't even mentioned in the source. I wouldn't object to including a line about the "state of South Florida", if it followed what the source actually says and wasn't given undue weight.Cúchullain ^t/c 23:46, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was completely surprised to see it as the second section of the article, like its being seriously discussed or debated (Which it is not) I personally think it should be demoted to a bottom section of the article. Also why does this article completely differ from the U.S. Census in population estimates and describing "South Florida" to include central and west coast florida? South Florida generally refers to the continuous metropolitan area of "Fort Lauderdale-West Palm-Miami" As exampled in this Sun-Sentinel article: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2014-03-27/news/fl-census-population-estimates-2013-20140327_1_domestic-migration-population-overseas-migration — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.115.233.210 (talk) 10:49, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Tropical" climate?

The climate of south Florida is technically subtropical; to be tropical it would have to lie within the tropics, which it does not. Even Key West is a few miles north of the Tropic of Cancer. 98.218.23.114 (talk) 19:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct that South Florida is not within the "tropics", but geographical location does not dictate overall weather patterns. The South Florida article could state more clearly that only portions of the area are considered tropical while other areas are subtropical, but from a meteorological standpoint there are areas with a tropical climate. Mathew105601 (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Crime Families

A dedicated section proposed. Wikipietime (talk) 12:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While many cities have a "Crime" section, I see that New York and Chicago, at least, do not have any "Crime Families" section. While you are free to add whatever you want to the article, I suggest that you be sure of the sources for such material. If you have enough material, a separate article may be in order. - Donald Albury 22:21, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SoFlo

Nobody uses the term SoFlo and South Florida does not include SW Florida. South Florida = Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. I've never heard it called SoFLo in my life (im from south florida) 2607:F140:6000:816C:B1E5:A8A8:C099:5FEC (talk) 00:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since "SoFlo" is not mentioned anywhere else in the article, or anywhere other than in the lead in "Miami Metropolitan Area", and I also have never heard the term, I have requested citations for its use in both articles. Donald Albury 02:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a South Floridian native I've personally never heard anyone actually use the term, but it does appear to have some degree of common usage per Google News. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 02:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, born and raised in Miami, but I last lived in South Florida 16 years ago, and I am an old fart, so I'm not qualified to definitely say one way or the other. There is the question of whether it is common enough to belong in the first sentence of the article. Donald Albury 13:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]