Talk:Southend Pier Railway

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Third train

I know that there is a third train on the Railway, because I've seen it with my own eyes. It is a single unit railcar. I've found a few peripheral references by googling:

http://world.nycsubway.org/world/uk/preserved/southend.html
http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3513&st=0&start=0 (search page for Castleline)

but nothing that I would see as a citable reference, and nothing to say when or how it got there, etc. Can anybody help fill this in. -- Starbois (talk) 10:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this is OR (I phoned the pier!), but it might help - it is British, built in 1996, and has a 4hp electric motor powered by lead-acid batteries. It is used only for staff movements. If I find any more, I'll let you know! regards, Lynbarn (talk) 15:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A 3-axle battery powered single passenger car built by Castleline of Nottingham entered service in November 1995 for winter use; it is numbered 1835, the year that Southend Pier first appeared on Admiralty charts. (from this thread, item 13)

Unfortunately 1995 is just a little too early for web-searchable press releases, and forums like that one are not normally regarded as good sources, although that post is pretty professional looking and I'm tempted to chance it and risk a revert. I'm guessing that it was originally bought for winter service (buying a railcar for staff movements on 1.3 mi long pier would seem a little profligate; a bike or two would be a lot cheaper) but it didn't prove successful in that role. But obviously such a guess cannot make it into the article. -- Starbois (talk) 16:16, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I give up attempting to navigate the absurd bureaucracy of modern wikipedia, but here is everything I can find on the third car. Maybe something is a useful reference

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45898619@N08/16915956259/ http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/Southend.html https://www.southendtimeline.com/southendpiertrains.htm (has a popover, can be bypassed with ublock origin, or https://web.archive.org/web/20130716054951/https://www.southendtimeline.com/southendpiertrains.htm

I know it is 14 years since these posts, but Easdown, 2007 "Southend Pier" has two pictures and a little information. Industrial Locomotives Handbook 16EL also mentions it. I'll add something. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

broken links

the prices page is now http://www.southend.gov.uk/info/200306/southend_pier_and_cliff_lift/79/opening_times_ticket_prices_and_pier_train_information --217.44.113.219 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done - thank you very much for your help. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 02:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Preserved 1949 coach

The Lynn Tait Gallery in Leigh had an AC Cars coach recovered from Tal-y-Cafn. Does anyone know what happened to it after the gallery closed in 2017? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 11:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It could not be removed from the building without knocking down a wall or removing part of the roof, and so was left in situ. It is now part of the cafe that trades in the Old Foundry, and can be seen much more easily than it could when it was surrounded by items from the gallery. You can see it through the window on Google street view, and I have just uploaded two pictures to Commons. (use Commonscat link on article) Bob1960evens (talk) 17:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bob Murgatroyd49 (talk) 17:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merger of Pier stations into main article

As per the following conversations I have redirected the pages of the Shore and Pier Head stations to here. There was nothing to merge as the article already had the same info.

Merge Should this page be merged into the Pier railway article. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Davidstewartharvey Yes. Anyone consulting WP about this railway should not have to visit three separate articles (which must inevitably repeat much info, map, infobox) to learn about a point-to-point shuttle. Good suggestion. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 16:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea, none of the articles are so long that a split is necessary. I've added formal merge tags to the articles and noted at Talk:Pier Head railway station (Essex) to discuss it here (to keep discussion in one place - it would be silly to merge one and not the other). Thryduulf (talk) 19:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I only found that we had separate articles while trying to improve southend and found it under one of the categories.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 21:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merging these articles would allow for easier reference and would improve overall clarity. No need for much the same information to be spread across three articles. Adamfamousman (talk) 23:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. The station articles are very small and are stubs. Davidng913 (talk) 00:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - this makes perfect sense to have all three articles in one place. Turini2 (talk) 13:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Davidstewartharvey (talk) 19:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]