Talk:Soviet ruble

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 05:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Soviet RoubleSoviet ruble — Standardization. Like Russian ruble. ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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The unit ruble should be lower case. It's a unit, like meter, not a proper name. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style.
The unit should be spelled ruble. And rouble is a variant of ruble. See definition of ruble at m-w and definition of rouble. The Bank of Russia also uses ruble. See [1].
  • Support</nowiki>  If thats the proper way to spell it I apoligise for moving it, but I was taught it was spelled rouble (probably cause i'm british).

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What languages to include in the infobox?[edit]

Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics#Peseta. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

It sounds cumbersome, but the ruble did have 15 official names, corresponding to the 15 languages of the union republics. Since it would be clearly unfair to pick and choose what to include in the infobox and what to leave out (who, after all, gets to say that Uzbek should be left out, but Ukrainian should be included?), I think either all 15 names or only Russian should be included. --Ericdn (talk) 15:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Ruble picture[edit]

The commons image dates it 1944 rather than 1924. Cyrillic? Which is the truest date? -- maxrspct ping me 22:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Where does it say 1944? Are you referring to Image:Rubel 1924.png? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Black market exchange rates[edit]

Does anyone know where to find information on black market ruble exchange rates during the Soviet era? This might be something worthy to add to the article. Esn (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Would market raters from late Soviet era help? The market wasn't exactly black anymore, in that it was recognised that it exists, but it wasn't exactly legal, either. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 04:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
During perestroika in Moscow, I was personally quoted between 25-50:1 on the low end. At the high end, some were getting up to 200:1, but that was still rare at the time. Official exchange rate was 1:2 (two USD to the ruble). - Tenebris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.74 (talk) 14:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oversupply of interenterprise accounting roubles[edit]

One of the most peculiar characteristics of Soviet collapse was simultaneous inflation and shortage of cash. In most cases, inflation happens because of severe oversupply of cash. In case of Soviet rouble, cash was in short supply, and instead, inter-enterprise accounting roubles were oversupplied. Only after Perestroika made these two forms of roubles mutually convertible did hyperinflation of cash roubles become possible. Due to these unusual circumstances, it's important to clearly explain what was going on, or our reader might assume something more conventional -- such as irresponsible printing of cash, the process driving hyperinflation in Zimbabwe right now. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 04:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Rouble or ruble?[edit]

The article is entitled Ruble but in the second para the term Roubles is used. Surely we should be consistent? Headhitter (talk) 11:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. I also wonder what "virtual ruble" means. --illythr (talk) 21:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Finnish language in table[edit]

There is Finnish language in table. However, the explanation for the table is: The name of the currency in the languages of the 15 republics, in the order they appeared in the banknotes:
"in the order they appeared in the banknotes"? Sorry, but Finnish language did not appear in the banknotes. It can also be counted from the banknote in the infobox: there is 15 languages, while the has 16 languages. So Finnish should be removed from the table. I deleted it, but it was reverted. 82.141.116.89 (talk) 17:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Using Ctrl+F for the word "Finnish" in the article yields the following sentence: Finnish last appeared on 1947 banknotes since the Karelo-Finnish SSR was dissolved in 1956. --illythr (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
So, Finnish was at a time in the notes. However, just above the table, there reads: The name of the currency in the languages of the 15 republics, in the order they appeared in the banknotes. Would it be ok to just change "15" to "16", since there are 16 languages listed? 82.141.95.68 (talk) 05:02, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Official exchange rates[edit]

The article says "the currency was not internationally exchangeable" -- but then, in a seeming contradiction, it immediately gives a table of "Historical official exchange rates." Can we conclude that these "official exchange rates" were for propaganda purposes only? Novel compound (talk) 05:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)