Talk:Toronto—St. Paul's (federal electoral district)

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Requested Move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Page moved to St. Paul's (electoral district). While St. Paul's (federal electoral district) is an option, it seems that some editors want that discussed over the entire country. So this fixes the disambiguation problem and allows for further discussion for a country consensus. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St. Paul's → St. Paul's, Toronto — The current name seems ambiguous given the number of other places called St. Paul's. I do not think this article can claim primary usage. Cjc13 (talk) 18:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose that is still confusing, did you read the contents of the hatnote? Suggest St. Paul's (federal riding) instead. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 05:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment what do you propose replacing it at this name? A dab page made from the hatnote would be a good idea. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 05:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment there is more than one St. Paul's, Toronto ; and we have articles for them as well. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatives are St. Paul's (electoral district) which is already a redirect for this article or St. Paul's (federal electoral district). Either would be acceptable to me. Cjc13 (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply From the hatnote, there's more than one electoral district (riding) by that name. The redirect should be a dab page. St. Paul's (provincial electoral district) exists. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment when did Canadian English disappear from riding article titles? It's called a "riding". 76.66.193.224 (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply: Federal electoral district is the term used by Statistics Canada. --Hwy43 (talk) 04:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- In informal spoken English, yes, they're called ridings. However, in an encyclopedia, they're properly called "electoral districts" — both because that's their official name, and because our audience here is international rather than just Canadian, so we need to use the term that would be least confusing to the majority of our readers. And as for when CanE "disappeared" from the titles, they've always been disambiguated as "electoral district" rather than "riding", certainly at least since I started editing here in 2003. Bearcat (talk) 04:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When a pair of Canadian electoral districts with the same name — almost every district in Ontario, frex — both require disambiguation from other topics with the same name, the convention has always been "electoral district" (not "federal electoral district") for the federal one and "provincial electoral district" for the provincial one. It might be legitimate to discuss whether that convention should be changed across the board, but there's no useful reason for this one to stand alone as an isolated exception to the normal convention. So if you'd like to shoot for a consensus to move all Canadian federal electoral districts which require disambiguation to "federal electoral district" instead of just "electoral district", then by all means, knock yourself out — but until such a consensus is actually reached, it's St. Paul's (electoral district) or bust. Bearcat (talk) 05:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this sums up the situation and support this view. The main dab page is Saint Paul (disambiguation). Cjc13 (talk) 10:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:59, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as suggested, but I would support a move to St. Paul's (electoral district) as noted above, as it doesn't appear that the Toronto electoral district is the primary use of the term. Mind matrix 22:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.