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Copy and Paste Notice

This article was not copied and pasted from another source - the information was written by me, and drawn from the sources listed in the bibliography. Thus, I have removed the "copy and paste" notice. Please let me know if there's anything else I need to do to prove the originality of this article. Amherstsabrina (talk) 15:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I "wikified" this article, and removed the wikify tag. 148.85.192.103 (talk) 19:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete

Who's the sculptor? Where's the original statue? At the River Severn in the UK? See [1]... See also [2]. Here is a CC-BY image of the Roosevelt Island copy. Maybe you should expand the scope of this article, after all, the Amherst Sabrina is just one copy of many. Lupo 15:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Amherst College Sabrina is, in fact, the original. The statue which sits at Roosevelt Island was a replica made by Amherst graduate (class of 1980), Bruce Becker -- here is a quotation from an Amherst Student article from 2007: "Becker considers the Sabrina image beautiful and has installed replicas at his projects to share her tradition and splendor. Among the sites Sabrina replicas appear are the Octagon housing development on Roosevelt Island, New York City and The Mervin, a senior citizen housing project in Norwalk, Conn., where men who have lost their wives have begun to develop "emotional bonds" with her, according to Becker." [Josh Glasser, "Cast in Bronze, Sabrina Lives On," Amherst Student (2007)]

But in this blog, Becker is reported to have stated to only have recast the statue: "The castings were made from a mold of 19th Century casting I locating [sic] in Rochester Vermont that was in perfect condition." Hence he's not the sculptor. Who made that mould? William Calder Marshall? And how come it ended up at Rochester? Lupo 21:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at item 245 in this catalog. That's a porcelain version of Marshall's Sabrina. Looks the same, doesn't it? See also this 1860 exhibit record. Lupo 21:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason that rumor of her recent liberation/theft are not recorded here? Lack of supporting proof, or just out of date? If no response is posted, I'll go ahead and add what I can verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.196.162 (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was an article in the 2008 Amherst Student, graduation edition, but I can't seem to find it online. Lots of Amherst-related websites have posts about it, but the Student article is the only published record I know of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.62.15.129 (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General Notability Guidelines

I have removed the "General Notability Guidelines" tag, because I believe that the Sabrina Statue meets Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. The pranks surrounding the Sabrina Statue constitute the most significant tradition at Amherst College - a tradition which dates to the mid nineteenth century, and continues to the present. A scholarly article, as well as an extensive history (whose authenticity has been verified by a New York Times article - see the NY times article cited in the page's bibliography), as well as a number of articles published by Amherst College's independent newspaper, verify this assertion. See also this article on the Time webpage: [[3]].

As further evidence of Sabrina's long tradition at Amherst, see [this Five College Archive page, documenting an entire box of Sabrina-related documents].

If the statue's notability needs to be further established, please say what documentation would be required to demonstrate this.

Amherstsabrina (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed orphan tag.

The article now has three links, so I removed the Orphan tag. For me, the article is both notable and fun. Those who argue against notability may be influenced by the amusement factor. I do wonder if the alumni following the Williams College see also link will want to remove it. I hope not. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Grimaldi

Reference to involvement of Al Grimaldi in the June, 1977 capture of the statue is probably wrong. He did not start attending Amherst until the fall of that year. I know this because I was a student there when the June, 1977 prank took place. The note refers to an interview with Pete Joy, in 2006. I believe this refers to an Officer Joy who was a member of the campus police department in 1977. By 2006, he'd have to be a fairly senior fellow. It's possible he does not remember this accurately. Also, the Officer Joy I knew was a sly person and might just as easily have been pulling the interviewers' legs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevensrmiller (talk • contribs) 16:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2024 return

@Drmies She has been in fact returned, which you can verify by pulling the metadata on the image. what other verification would you like? we can definitely provide it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmath729 (talk • contribs)

Eh, who is "we"? I'm thinking more and more that you are using Wikipedia as a vehicle for some prank. Also, "megadata" don't work for anything here: content should be based on reliable sources. Secondary sources--not some picture or an Instagram post. Drmies (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please assume edits are made in good faith rather than for a prank. Large deletions of previous editor's work is better done in discussion with those editors to find a way of verifying the content. For example, the statue did make an appearance at the 2024 commencement. The Youtube video cited is a recording of President Elliott's commencement speech (yet to be transcribed), where this fact is verified by him around 41:12. Monospace Bug (talk) 07:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]