Talk:Sulcus (neuroanatomy)

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I am an undergraduate psychology student at Nebraska Wesleyan University and will be working with my instructor Michele Petracca and the APS Wikipedia Initiative to improve this article this semester.

These are the articles I am thinking about using to add information to the Sulcus (neuroanatomy) page.

Carlson, N. R. (2013). Physiology of Behavior. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson Education Inc.

Cusack, R. (2005). The intraparietal sulcus and perceptual organization. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, 17(4), 641-651. doi: 10.1162/0898929053467541

Davranche, K., Nazarian, B., Vidal, F., Coull, J. (2011). Orienting attention in time activates left intraparietal sulcus for both perceptual and motor task goals. Journal of cognitive Neuroscience, 23(11), 3318-3330. doi: 10.1162/jocn_a_00030

Huntgeburth, S. C. (2012). Morphological patterns of the collateral sulcus in the human brain. European Journal of Neuroscience, 35(8), 1295-1311. doi: 10.1111/j.1460-9568.2012.08031.x

Shultz, S. (2012). The superior temporal sulcus differentiates communicative and noncommunicative auditory signals. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, 24(5), 1224-1232. doi: 10.1162/jocn_a_00208

Any suggestions or input along the way would be greatly appreciated. Derek hord (talk) 15:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

That'd be great, any expansion of the article is appreciated. I think the sources you name are good, but if you want more help you can check out WP:MEDRS for finding suitable sources. WP:MEDMOS gives a manual of style guideline for how to create articles.
We normally go for mostly secondary sources such as professional textbooks, reviews, and position statements within medicine, but haven't been as strict when it comes to anatomy. I'd still advise for the use of such material over smaller primary sources.
P.S. This article as of now contains a rather long list, it may be preferable to split the list portion into a new article such as Sulci of the human brain CFCF (talk · contribs · email) 20:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Classmate revisions[edit]

Good information so far. The pictures are helpful as well. Maybe consider using the Carlson textbook from class for any additional information you may need. I found it to be a helpful resource, and it is also a secondary source. Katelyn0902 (talk) 03:05, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. From reviewing your article, I think you have some very good information. However, there were a few things that stuck out to me.

  • First, I think the last sentence that you include in the introductory section of your article may be better placed somewhere else. I think you were attempting to use this sentence as an example of a sulcus being called something else, but when I was reading over it, it just stuck out as a random fact that didn’t really belong. If you wish to incorporate this sentence into the introductory section, you may be better off by starting the sentence off with “for example,” or “notably.” Otherwise, it may be beneficial to move the information about the exception in the nomenclature to it’s own section.
  • Next, I noticed in your individual variation section, your first sentence claims that “the most elaborate overview on this variation is probably an atlas by Ono, Kubick, and Abernathey…” Upon looking at this source, I see that you cited the atlas itself for this claim. My question is, who claimed that this atlas is one of the most elaborate overviews on the variation between individuals? Did a scientific paper claim this? Does the atlas make a self-proclamation that they are the most elaborate? You should cite the reference that makes this claim that the atlas is the most elaborate, rather than expecting the reader to take your word for it. Also in this section, in the last sentence, you state that the “larger sulci are, however…” Instead of saying “larger sulci,” maybe you could find a better phrase, such as “prominent sulci” or “unmistakable sulci,” or “pronounced sulci.” You may also want to elaborate on “it is possible to establish a nomenclature.” You could change this to something as simple as “it is possible to establish a common nomenclature across individuals and species” to clear up what you mean.
  • In your next section, “Gyrification across species,” you do not include a reference for your first sentence, which you definitely should do. As a reader, I may be interested in further reading the evidence where you based this fact on, and it would be helpful if the citation was immediately following this claim. In the second sentence, you may want to include a hyperlink to the lissencephalics and gyrencephalics articles if they exist on wikipedia. You may also include a comma or two to break up this sentence. Again, you may also want to include the citation immediately following your third sentence in this section.
  • Your brain development section is pretty good, but you may consider expanding it to include more information on brain development.
  • Finally, in your notable sulci section, I was confused as to why you chose to include the notable sulci in macaque. I realize that you are showing that the macaque has a simpler sulcal pattern, but I didn't really find the relevance of including this in the article. I’m sure there are plenty of animals that exhibit simple sulcal patterns, but it was unclear why you chose to include this species as the lone species of the article.

Overall, I think your article is pretty good. With these minor changes and some expansion here and there, I think your article would be much better! MSederberg21 (talk) 02:13, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Comments from WP:ANATOMY[edit]

Hi! Thanks for your edits to this article as part of your class project. I've remodelled the article around a standard 'structure' that we try and apply to all anatomy articles on Wikipedia. That structure can be found here: WP:MEDMOS#Anatomy. We use this structure so that all articles can be read more easily, and so that editors have a guide as to what makes up a 'complete' article. Cheers, --LT910001 (talk) 04:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)