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A.F.C Richmond
[edit]A.F.C Richmond is now in drafts any one who wants to help feel free too P+T 92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, but most of that article reads like complete fan fiction... there is no sources to back up anything that is written in there and I'm quite certain most of that information is completely made up given how in-depth it is. When in the series, did it state Freddie Mercury owned the team? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fansite; an article about a fake football team in a TV series isn't notable enough to have an article of its own because it's all in-universe information. Same goes for the fictional stadium, no way that warrants an article. I suggest reading up on Wikipedia policies and guidelines including regarding fictional subjects, WP:RS, WP:N, WP:NOT, and WP:NOTPLOT; before moving forward, because it'll probably just be a waste of effort on your part. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- this was for the original article see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AFC_Richmond&oldid=992293321 obviously it needs editing and fix witch has not be done yet92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- I concur with Drovethrughosts. Moreover, the article is written in British English, but the show is American, so it will have to be revised to align with the main show article, which is in American English. That's a minefield. I'd rather see us judiciously incorporate some of the team and stadium article content into this article, which will enhance both it and understanding of the show, rather then to have separate articles that treat the team and stadium in the manner of real ones when they're not. (Just for the record, the Freddie Mercury reference was to Wembly, when either Ted or Beard thought new Wembly was where Live Aid, which included the famous Queen performance, was held.) ----Dr.Margi ✉ 15:03, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Nelson Road
[edit]Nelson Road (fictional football stadium) is now in drafts any one who wants to help feel free too P+T 92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Ted lasso (character)
[edit]Ted lasso (character) is now in drafts any one who wants to help feel free too P+T 92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
The AppleTV+ magazine, in their April 23, 2021 edition, writes that their Emmy Award-winning series "was actually inspired by the story of Terry Smith, an American gridiron football coach who took over the English association football team Chester City F.C. and subsequently installed himself as the first-team coach". Smith was a NFL player for The New England Patriots before moving to England, where as the player/head coach of two teams in Great Britain, he led his teams to three National Championships and two European championships in 1989 and 1990, including the 1989 European Championship for Great Britain while he was the Great Britain National Team head coach.
Similarly, the Ted Lasso television series began with Lasso being hired by AFC Richmond after he had won a National Championship with an American college football team in the United States.
Smith was the first American in history to ever own or coach an English soccer team, and the first American to ever coach in the FA Cup. Many of the plots for the Ted Lasso shows, especially in its first season, were taken from actual experiences and positive thinking personality traits that Smith had displayed when he was coaching English soccer, experiences that were well-documented in the media through newspapers, magazine articles, and television programs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.125.76 (talk) 04:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
AFC Richmond squad
[edit]An IP editor added a table with the team roster today, including a number of names of players we don't see on camera. It's rather fun to have the table, and perhaps later the uniforms could be added, but what's the source for all the names and numbers not seen on camera or listed in the credits? Perhaps this should be cut down a bit to the players with speaking roles, or something similar. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 00:06, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- If it can be references and add it I just added it to A.F.C Richmond draft as it better suited there. 10:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.253.249 (talk)
Spoilers in cast descriptions
[edit]The cast descriptions spoil huge parts of the series. Nate's description states that he leaves AFC Richmond and joins Rebecca's ex's new team. This is a pretty big end of season spoiler, and people aren't coming to this page to have the whole thing ruined for them. Should this be in a separate season synopsis later down the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.7.80 (talk) 14:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- No. We don't edit for details such as you describe. Readers should exercise some personal responsibility for what they might see. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 13:35, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Lots of information here: Wikipedia:Spoiler. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:43, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
No mention of Hannah j in intro, only the male actors
[edit]It stands out by omission. 77.101.252.56 (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm assuming you mean Hannah Waddingham? From the third paragraph in the lede:
"...with Sudeikis, Hannah Waddingham, and Brett Goldstein winning for their performances..."
Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hannah W is the first named actor who is not also a writer or producer of the show. Cabayi (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
'Soccer'
[edit]Why is it consistently referred to as 'soccer' in the article given that 1. only America calls it that and 2.It's set in England Faust.TSFL (talk) 13:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- The show is American, its main character is an American and the article is in American English. The setting doesn't really matter. Football is what Ted coached in the United States, and as you say, soccer is what we call the game he coaches now. Its not the only British jargon changed to American equivalents in the article. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 15:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Proposed split and updates for the awards list
[edit]Two comments to the list of awards in this article:
- There's currently about 80-90 awards in the list here, which is probably enough to justify a separate article and prevent the list from dominating the page. (And even though Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, I think it's reasonable to assume this list will grow, especially with Emmy nominations coming out next month.) I think the list should be split out to List of awards and nominations received by Ted Lasso, and this article should simply recap the biggest awards it has received.
- The list currently sorts awards roughly chronologically, but most TV awards lists (especially standalone lists) sort by award name first. I think this list should be revised to this new format. It would make it a bit harder to update the list, but it would make it significantly easier to search for awards – most people would probably know the award name over the specific year (and awards within a year have no clear pattern to help with searches).
Thoughts? RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Since nobody has objected to the split, I'll go ahead and boldly perform the move. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:11, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Why no mention of the Christmas special?
[edit]The article doesn't mention Ted Lasso: The Missing Christmas Moustache which aired in December, after the second season finale. I tried updating the episode list, but I just messed up the formatting until I eventually backed out and just wrote this bit here. -Gohst (talk) 07:09, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Who the Ted Lasso character and series is based on
[edit]This article refuses to acknowledge who the Ted Lasso series and character are based on.
Throughout the early seasons of Ted Lasso, all of the Ted Lasso actors and writers and production company stated that Ted Lasso was inspired by Terry Smith, an American football player and coach who went on to become the first American to ever own or coach a professional English soccer team.
Even the AppleTV+ magazine, who are part of the company involved with the production and broadcast of the series, wrote in April of 2021 that the Ted Lasso series was “inspired by Terry Smith”.
Additionally, many of the episode plots, especially in season one were taken directly from actions and scenes and words that Terry Smith had initiated, done, and said during his coaching years in English soccer.
All of Smith’s actions were well-documented by newspaper and magazine articles and television programs about Smith, and so the Ted Lasso writers copied their scenes identically with what they saw that Smith had done in media publications and television productions about Smith.
In these early years of Ted Lasso, these actors and writers even specifically referred to exact actions done by Terry Smith that they had read about and watched.
In fact, many of the Ted Lasso episodes had exact scenes and even the exact words used by Smith.
Although the actors and writers for Ted Lasso freely admitted during the first year that the show was inspired by Terry Smith, after the show became a big hit, then they have very obviously tried to remove any reference to Terry Smith in their current interviews and articles. Instead, pretending that they created everything for the show by their own creative abilities, which is completely false.
Every time additional editors to this article attempt to add the basic fact of Terry Smith being the inspiration for the show, and attempt to explain this AppleTV+ admitted fact with factual comparisons, the primary editor of this article removes these factual edits.
The removal of these facts has happened many times during this past year. In addition, the editor of this article removes the Terry Smith facts from the Ted Lasso article every time within a few hours of the facts being added to the article.
The primary editor’s overly constant attention to this article at all times, and the great detail of the article about the series, would suggest that the editor has a job working for the Ted Lasso series company.
This means that the editor of this article has been hired by the Ted Lasso company to continue to try to falsely cover up the fact that Terry Smith was the inspiration for the show so that the primary editor can continue to put forward the false claim that the actors and writers of Ted Lasso came up with everything about Ted Lasso on their own.
Here are the facts that the editor continues to immediately and repeatedly remove every time they are added to the article.
The AppleTV+ magazine, a department within the company that produces and broadcasts the Ted Lasso shows and series, wrote in their April 23, 2021 edition that their Emmy Award-winning series "was actually inspired by the story of Terry Smith, an American gridiron football coach who took over the English association football team Chester City F.C. and subsequently installed himself as the first-team coach".
Smith was a NFL player for The New England Patriots before moving to England, where as the player/head coach of two teams in Great Britain, he led his teams to three National Championships and two European championships, including the European Championship for Great Britain while he was the Great Britain National Team head coach.
Similarly, the Ted Lasso television series began with Lasso being hired by AFC Richmond after he had won a National Championship with an American college football team in the United States.
Smith was the first American in history to ever own or coach an English soccer team, and the first American to ever coach in the FA Cup.
Many of the plots for the Ted Lasso shows, especially in its first season, were taken from actual experiences and positive thinking personality traits that Smith had displayed when he was coaching English soccer, experiences that were well-documented in the media through newspapers, magazine articles, and television programs. 24.56.125.76 (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- First of all, you have never once supplied a WP:RS. Everything you have said is uncited and WP:OR. Importantly, the "official Apple TV+ magazine" you mention does not exist. After some Googling, it appears the origin of this is from here: https://applemagazine.com/ted-lasso-season-2-gets-a-hilarious-new-trailer/46732 from "AppleMagazine.com", which per their own website says, "AppleMagazine is an independent publication and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Apple Inc." So your assertion of "who are part of the company involved with the production and broadcast of the series" is simply false. Please find a reliable source from the actual producers, creators, etc. that state the series is actually "inspired by/based on" this person. Thank you. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- After fully reading your post, thought I'd reply to certain key parts to clarify things for you.
- 1.
"Throughout the early seasons of Ted Lasso, all of the Ted Lasso actors and writers and production company stated that Ted Lasso was inspired by Terry Smith..."
Do you have a WP:RS for this or literally any "fact" you're claiming? Because you've never given one. - 2.
"Even the AppleTV+ magazine, who are part of the company involved with the production and broadcast of the series..."
No they are not, AppleMagazine is not affiliated with Apple Inc. per their own website. It's a Apple fan blog. - 3.
"Although the actors and writers for Ted Lasso freely admitted during the first year that the show was inspired by Terry Smith, after the show became a big hit, then they have very obviously tried to remove any reference to Terry Smith in their current interviews and articles."
This sounds like conspiracy theory, again, you have never once supplied a reliable source for anything you have wrote. This is called WP:OR and does not belong here. - 4.
"...the primary editor of this article removes these factual edits."
It cannot be factual if you have never once added a reliable source. I suggest reading WP:V, a main policy of Wikipedia. - 5.
"The primary editor’s overly constant attention to this article at all times, and the great detail of the article about the series, would suggest that the editor has a job working for the Ted Lasso series company."
I'm assuming you're referring to me. While I'd love to work in television (big TV fan), I do not work for them. Wikipedia is merely a hobby (almost 15 years now). Registered editors have watchlists, meaning we see recent changes to articles on our watchlist for articles we frequently edit. It's that simple. - 6.
"This means that the editor of this article has been hired by the Ted Lasso company to continue to try to falsely cover up the fact that Terry Smith was the inspiration for the show so that the primary editor can continue to put forward the false claim that the actors and writers of Ted Lasso came up with everything about Ted Lasso on their own."
Another conspiracy theory. This provided me with a great laugh, thank you.
Any sources I can find online merely note the similarities, but don't outright say he is factually "based on". This source states "rumored" to be "loosely based on"; here he is "compared to"; and this one notes its similarities. Maybe we can add something like "Some sources have noted the similarities between Ted Lasso and Terry Smith" followed by a few citations. But we need to stay away from "factually inspired/based on" because we can't back that up with reliable sources.
But as it stands right now, what's happening here is very simple: you are adding unsourced/unverified content and it is being removed for said reasons because of WP:V. Drovethrughosts (talk) 16:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- The primary actors and writers for the show referred to Terry Smith in many interviews and articles during the first two years. In fact, they did so much research on Mr. Smith that they referred to articles in magazines that were from 22 years earlier that they had obviously had done a huge amount work to find and to do research on.
- If you want to see what the series copied from Mr. Smith, then all you have to do is go back and read articles from 1999, and watch television programs from 1999 and 2000 to see what the writers copied from Mr. Smith.
- Mr. Smith was the first American in history in ever own or coach an English soccer club, and so the media wrote and filmed many things about Smith that the Lasso actors and writers copied.
- For example, the episode from season one about the newspaper writer interviewing Lasso was identical to what occurred with Mr. Smith. In fact, the newspaper writer in the Lasso episode wrote the identical words that the writer wrote in a feature article in the Manchester Evening News Sunday edition about Smith in 1999 following the December 1999 FA Cup 3rd Round match against Manchester City, including that the newspaper thought Smith was charming and that the newspaper writer was rooting for Smith (Lasso).
- The Lasso episode says these exact same words in its newspaper article about Lasso.
- Another example is the Lasso episode where Lasso goes to the school to play soccer with the children, gives tickets to the children, and stands up in front to talk to the children.
- English soccer coaches did not ever do this, but Smith did this exact same thing a number of times, two of which were nationally broadcast on television programs in Great Britain, and Smith’s visits to the schools even had the exact same verbal questioning and situation with the students as was written into the Lasso episode.
- The Lasso writers copied Smith by watching the national television program that is still available, a television program that the actors and writers referred to in 2021 articles that they had watched.
- Likewise, Smith was always overly positive and optimistic, just like Lasso, and Smith even put up motivational words on the wall of the dressing room like Believe that Lasso put up.
- These are just a few examples of very many.
- There are a huge number of things that the Lasso writers and actors copied from Mr. Smith.
- However, in your article we do not want to take away the image from the Ted Lasso show by going through each of your episodes like we could easily do, and citing in your very well-written and beautiful article what was copied from Mr. Smith in each of them.
- We could very easily do this, but we are also fans of Ted Lasso, and so we do not want to make the show, actors, and writers look bad by showing how much they copied from Mr. Smith.
- At the same time, though, we are not going to sit back and allow articles like this to falsely pretend that the Ted Lasso series was entirely their own creative genius and that the show was not inspired and very much based on Mr. Smith.
- There are many laws that do not allow people to copy things from other people, and even more laws that do not allow people to copy things and then not even give credit to the person they have copied the things from.
- Therefore, we need to agree on some area of truth that both of us are willing to accept.
- Your suggestion that you could write that people think there are similarities between Smith and Lasso is not anywhere close to enough, and would not be true to Mr. Smith because the Lasso writers have copied Mr. Smith’s actions and words and situations exactly word for word in many episodes throughout the series.
- In fact, in nearly every episode in Season 1 there were situations and scenes that were identical to what Mr. Smith did, that the Lasso actors and writers have admitted to reading about and watching on television, and that they obviously copied from Mr. Smith.
- If you want us to go through your very beautifully written article and make all the citations in every episode that the Lasso writers copied from Mr. Smith, then we can easily do that.
- But if you do not want us to add all these factual citations to your beautiful article, and you do not want us to show all the readers that the Ted Lasso series was largely copied and not an original creation, then we need to come up with something between us that is acceptable to both of us.
- In order for you to begin to appreciate how much the actors and writers researched Mr. Smith before the series ever began, and how much they copied from Mr. Smith, all you have to do is to go back and read every magazine article you can from 2020 and 2021, because in many of those articles the actors and writers refer to Mr. Smith and all the things that he did.
- Thank you. 24.56.125.76 (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but you have still yet to provide a single citation or reference to support any of supposed "facts" you claim. Your edits violate several Wikipedia policies and guidelines including WP:RS, WP:V, WP:OR, and WP:SYNTH and you are edit warring by continually adding unsourced claims; this can lead you to getting blocked as your behavior has been disruptive and seem to refuse or are unable to cite any of the claims you're making. Drovethrughosts (talk) 19:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Sir,
- You claim to be only interested in your own work, but then you have removed things on other people’s personal pages that have nothing to do with your work.
- The other page was changed to match with what you said about Apple magazine, and so we showed our respect to you and to your finding about the magazine, but you took it off someone else’s page anyway even though you know it is true.
- We can show you many sources to support our position, and we wrote to you and explained these sources, such as the television program that you can watch that is identical to the Lasso school episode.
- We are not edit warring, but instead you are trying to war with us.
- We took a considerable amount of time to explain to you the sources and references that are available, but you did not respond at all to these, and instead you took down what we had written anyway, including taking it down on an entirely different page that gave reference to an exact Apple magazine article that you agree exists. But you took down what we accurately wrote even though that page has nothing to do with your work.
- Therefore, you are going out of your way to war with other people on their personal pages that have nothing to do with you and that you have made no effort to verify as not being incorrect.
- As one example of proof that the writers and actors of Ted Lasso researched Terry Smith throughout 22 years of media coverage of Mr. Smith, here is an article that proves it.
- In this 2021 article, Mr. Hunt, as you know a main actor and writer for Ted Lasso, was referring to an article from a 1999 article in Four Four Two magazine where the writer brought an American flag for a feature picture on Mr. Smith that the writer wrapped around Mr. Smith for the cover picture.
- Mr. Hunt and his colleagues obviously had to work very hard to find an old article from 22 years before.
- Therefore, since this proves that they researched Mr. Smith in depth, and since many of the episodes as explained to you by us are word for word and action for action identical to what Mr. Smith did, and since you can watch the 1999 BBC program online about Mr. Smith that has the exact same school visit on it that Ted Lasso does in the school episode, then there is no other conclusion to draw than that a large part of the Lasso series was inspired by and based upon Mr. Smith.
- In the article, Mr. Hunt also refers to Mr. Smith as being a motivational selling the dream person, which also matches exactly to the personality of their character Ted Lasso, and adds weight to the idea that Lasso’s upbeat and positive personality was also taken from Mr. Smith’s personality.
- In conclusion, we do not want to have this disagreement with you, and all we are looking for is a compromise with you that is based upon the facts.
- We look forward to considering your suggestions for a compromise, but a compromise needs to be fair for Mr. Smith also.
- Thank you.
- https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/ted-lasso-hapless-coach-england-team-121844848.html 24.56.125.76 (talk) 20:58, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but you have still yet to provide a single citation or reference to support any of supposed "facts" you claim. Your edits violate several Wikipedia policies and guidelines including WP:RS, WP:V, WP:OR, and WP:SYNTH and you are edit warring by continually adding unsourced claims; this can lead you to getting blocked as your behavior has been disruptive and seem to refuse or are unable to cite any of the claims you're making. Drovethrughosts (talk) 19:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have removed content because it is unsourced; you have never once added an inline citation to support any content you have added. I'm also not sure why you refer to yourself as "we", because if you're a group of people then that is in violation of Wikipedia policy (WP:NOSHARING). I read the Yahoo article and it simply mentions Smith; there is no reference to him being an inspiration or that the series is factually based on him. Again, you have provided zero, tangible, reliable sources to back what you're implying. I have already made a compromise with this edit. Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Sir,
- As far back as March 2021 this Ted Lasso article had a paragraph referencing Mr. Smith that we had no involvement in writing. However, this was taken out without any reason being given for doing so.
- Therefore, the early history of this article refers to Mr. Smith, and so all we are attempting to do is to further clarify and add detail to what was in this article to begin with.
- Sincerely. 24.56.125.76 (talk) 21:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I did some digging and this content (though worded differently) was added by an anonymous user in March 2021; it moved to a different section by a different editor in September 2021; moved again by another separate editor in October 2021; and deleted from the article in July 2022 by a different editor. All editors which were not me. The original content noted the comparisons between the two, it never claimed inspiration or factual basis. You are implying something different and you have no reliable sources (again, please see WP:V, WP:RS and WP:CITE.) Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Sir,
- Thank you very much for your efforts. 24.56.125.76 (talk) 00:11, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Sir,
- Why do you think that you should take down true statements that have been cited? That is not your role to do that.
- You have taken factual and cited statements down, and replaced it with a very short sentence that is less than what was written two years ago, and that does not even begin to list the similarities between Smith and Lasso, such as coaching in Britain, winning national and European championships, being the first American to ever own or be the manager of an English soccer club.
- Or, the fact that the Lasso writers and actors often mentioned their extensive research of Smith.
- You claimed initially that you were taking down things that were not cited, but then you take down things that are cited.
- That is not what is supposed to be done, and why do you think you are authorized to do this. 138.88.223.35 (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Apple Magazine is not a fan blog like you try to claim.
- It is a very highly-ranked magazine that is purchased through subscriptions.
- Here is their description. Prior to their 585th issue. Which means that the weekly Apple Magazine has been being published every week since 2011.
- A far longer-published and more accurate publication than the references you have used, at least one of which did not do its research work and wrote many false statements in its article.
- AppleMagazine
- 585
- Add to favorites
- AppleMagazine is a weekly publication jam-packed with breaking news, music, movies, TV shows, app reviews, and original content covering the latest goings-on in the world of Apple. AppleMagazine offers a new concept of light, intelligent, innovative reading to your fingertips; with a global view of Apple and its influence on our lives - be it leisure, family or work. Elegantly designed and highly interactive, AppleMagazine will also keep you updated on the latest consumer-tech news. It's that simple! It’s all about Apple and its cultural influence, all in one place, and only one tap away. Subscribe to AppleMagazine today. 138.88.223.35 (talk) 07:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- You claim that the UK Movies reference does not prove that the Lasso writers and actors extensively researched Smith.
- However, when a Lasso main writer/actor talks about what Smith did in 1999, 22 years earlier, that the writer/actor read in a 1999 magazine article about Smith, a magazine that was not uploaded online in 1999, and is still not uploaded.
- And so the writer/actor had to physically research 22 years of magazines and media coverage to look for articles, and find a physical copy of the magazine from 22 years before, in order to read about what Smith said and did 22 years ago, then that displays extensive research as we wrote.
- Included within this UK Movies article is also the AppleTV+ video interview with the writer/actor that AppleTV+ broadcasted with its AppleTV+ Logo on the video.
- And so this reference includes a video broadcast by AppleTV+, who are the producers of the Ted Lasso series and shows, showing one of their main writers and actors talking about their extensive knowledge of Terry Smith, who Apple Magazine and others have said was the inspiration for the Ted Lasso show.
- And you removed this very revealing reference.
- There is no reasonable logic to doing that. 138.88.223.35 (talk) 07:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- You again removed cited factual references. You obviously have your own agenda and motives that are to avoid the truth and facts. Your claim of removing the Apple Magazine reference is ridiculous because whatever their relationship to Apple is, it is far more and far closer than the reference you used from an online Canadian article that is full of false statements because they have had nothing to do with the situation and they did not even speak to both sides of the story before writing.
- Apple Magazine is an outstanding magazine of more than 600 editions that has been publishing since 2011, and is totally committed to Apple.
- If you remove what we have written again, then we are taking action against you.
- We are willing to compromise with you on the exact wording, but any fair compromise would include leaving in the factual references because they are factual references.
- The one sentence you keep writing is so minimal that it does not even mention the many facts that are not in dispute by anyone, and that explain Mr. Smith’s similarities to Lasso far more than your one sentence.
- For example, Smith is an American who was an American Football coach in Britain, including the head coach of the Great Britain National team and so he was very well-known in the country, who won national championships and European championships, like Lasso fictionally did, who purchased a professional English soccer team and became the first American in history to own or coach an English soccer team like Lasso did.
- Most readers do not look up references, and so for you to try to reduce the one sentence about Smith to that he was an American football coach is completely inadequate because why would being an American football coach cause people to see similarities between Smith and Lasso when there are hundreds of thousands of American football coaches.
- Therefore, any description of Smith for the readers has to be much more specific to show the similarities.
- If you want to put forward and negotiate a compromise on the wording, then we are willing to do that in an effort to keep you happy, and we look forward to your proposals.
- But if you refuse to compromise, and you remove our content again, then we are going to have to report the situation as edit warring by you, and we are going to have to take action.
- Thank you very much. 138.88.223.35 (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for working together to find a fair compromise. Thank you. 138.88.223.35 (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- I did some digging and this content (though worded differently) was added by an anonymous user in March 2021; it moved to a different section by a different editor in September 2021; moved again by another separate editor in October 2021; and deleted from the article in July 2022 by a different editor. All editors which were not me. The original content noted the comparisons between the two, it never claimed inspiration or factual basis. You are implying something different and you have no reliable sources (again, please see WP:V, WP:RS and WP:CITE.) Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Series level information in each episode article
[edit]@MrMaster17 the production and casting sections you are adding to each episode are irrelevent to the episode articles and are basically filler text. Please only add information which is relevent to the episode to those articles. Gonnym (talk) 20:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
themes
[edit]Something this show is its themes with mental heath (specifically in Season 2), for example in Season 2, the team hires a therapist to help with the teams mentality, also in the episode where Ted Lasso confronts his doubts and fears on therapy.
Also the cast met Joe Biden to discuss mental heath on 3/20/23 Melofy (talk) 20:10, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Yes ik that there is a section about this in reception, but I think we should add it into a different category — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melofy (talk • contribs) 20:12, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Episode #27 (S03E05) Synopsis - Disputed Interpretation
[edit]"Rebecca visits a fertility clinic after noticing another of Tish's premonitions coming true, but learns that she is no longer fertile."
Although perhaps implied, there is no explicit mention in the episode that Rebecca is no longer fertile. Nevertheless, while Rebecca’s reaction to the doctor’s phone call is seemingly negative, it isn’t necessarily so... many people react to good news in what could be a perceivably negative manner, especially when overwhelmed by a positive situation, and to find out that she can still conceive a child could be extremely overwhelming to the character.
This could also be a head-fake as there could be other explanations for Rebecca's reaction to the phone call. For example, is it not plausible that Rebecca is already pregnant and her visit to the doctor was not to see if she is fertile but to confirm a suspected pregnancy (perhaps spurred on by Tish's premonitions coming true)? There is no mention of what tests are being performed... certainly, there are blood tests to determine whether or not someone could conceive, but blood tests are also used to confirm a pregnancy, especially when it is too early for physical confirmation (e.g. ultrasound). The doctor’s phone call could have been to confirm the results of a pregnancy test.
Without knowing what the doctor said on the other side of the phone call, to make a statement that "[Rebecca] is no longer fertile" seems to violate neutral point of view guidelines. 173.161.83.177 (talk) 18:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Coach Beard's first name
[edit]Ted says " What you talkin' 'bout Willis" to Coach Beard in S2 Ep 1, a clear reference to the catchphrase from Diff'rent Strokes, and not an indication that his name is "Willis". AndyMac0111 (talk) 21:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- His first name is Willis as revealed in the finale. Try watching all the episodes before commenting. 78.144.192.24 (talk) 17:40, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I mean fair enough, we actually watched the finale just yesterday. Withdrawn. AndyMac0111 (talk) 18:18, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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